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Four Carolina Panthers Round Two Prospects

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1 minute ago, rodeo said:

We had the #1 offense last year and they got creamed by the #1 defense in the SB. I want us to have the #1 defense now. My ideal scenario is Dodd/Ogbah in the first, Bell/Cravens in the second.

 

Out of those it will be Ogbah and Bell....which would be awesome

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Would love any of those in the second, even trading up to mid 2nd round.  I will be honest, I wouldn't be surprised to see Cravens as a first round pick.  People didn't think Shaq or Devin were worthy of their spots, last year, if he is Gettleman's guy he's the pick

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Ifedi fuging sucks. I'd rather wait and take Shell, Beavers, or Haeg 2 rounds later. I would replace Germain with Cash or Boyd.

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I'm not as confident of a trade up as most are, although it wouldn't surprise me at all.  

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Ok its official. I want Henry, then moved up and get Shepard

Make it happen Gettle

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I don't get why so many are infatuated with Hunter Henry.  A receiving TE that is not a particularly good blocker and is not overly tough seems to be a wasted pick for us.  I know everyone has fantasies about two TE's going out and causing havoc for defenses.  The only problem is that's not what would happen.  In our two TE sets, we typically keep one TE in to block while the other (usually Olsen) goes out in a pattern.  And while some still remember having Olsen and Shockey, also remember that their combined stats were about what we are getting from just Olsen now.  So, if we did make Henry a big part of our passing game, it would cut into Olsen's numbers and impact on the team.  And I don't know about you, but I'm not at all interested in limiting what Olsen does for us.  

Henry just seems to be the type of player that will give us a net value of zero for our 1st round pick.  Maybe if Olsen was getting ready to retire, but from everything I have heard, he still plans to play a few more years.  So there is little urgency to find his replacement now...particularly in such a weak TE draft.  Maybe take someone in the middle rounds to replace Dickson, but not in the 1st.

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Checked on the Olsen vs Olsen and Shockey stats and yeah they are pretty close.

2011 Shockey + Olsen - 161 targets, 82 rec, 995 yds, 9 TDs

2015 Olsen - 124 targets, 77 rec, 1104 yds, 7 TDs

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1-Ogbah (DE), 2-Shepard (WR), & 3-Darius Thompson (SS) and call it a day. 

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I only know as much as I know but Bell doesn't seem as ideal as some of the other guys at SS this draft.  Still would love the pick though but not a trade up.

I think he's more likely to fill Coleman's role down the road but can for sure play SS in our D.  There's a lot of big athletic potential box safeties in this draft who are great against the run: Cash, Thomspon, & Killebrew. Not to mention my super sleeper safety special: Kavon Frazier. I believe we've met with all of them.

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2 hours ago, Saca312 said:

I really want Sterling Shepard in the second. I think he'll become our Smitty 2.0. He runs routes at a pro level, something our team desperately needs, and he plays like Smitty. He's gonna be worth it in the long run if we get him. Make it happen Gman!

 

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If we had to guarantee one or the other between Shepherd and D. Henry, my preference would be to pick Shepherd with the 1st round pick and then try to trade up for Henry in the 2nd.

Because I think Shepherd would be soooooooooooooo much more valuable in this offense than Henry.  He would bring an aspect to this offense that it is missing, whereas Henry only provides a younger version (if he ends up being worth the pick) of what we already have.

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I could see those picks Igo posted...

BUT ... I'd counter ...

1.Cravens

2. Boyd

3. Zach Sanchez

4. Andrew Billings..

 

 

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Would be happy if any of these guys made it to us in Rd 2. TN has 3 picks in the second rd now, I bet they are the most likely candidate for us to trade with depending on how the board breaks in the first rd.

Shepard is the consensus safest pick among these from what I have read. The guy is just a good football player and incredibly strong for his size, I think he had like 20 reps on the bench at the Combine.

Ifedi is a monster, he passes the eye test for sure - not sure if he will make it to the second rd.  I watched him shove some of the AL guys around when A&M played them.  If we dont get this guy, Joe Haeg  might be the pick later, I think he might really be on our radar 4/5 rd if we keep a pick there. 

Bell is projected as a FS in most of the reports I have read, I think he is probably the least likely of these it would seem we are more in need/would take a value pick at SS.  He is a solid cover S if that is what DG is looking for.

But any of these guys would be a good grab in the second rd if DG pulls the trigger.

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8 hours ago, Catufb85 said:

I agree that all four of those guys are very unlikely to be there at 62.  With those guys being the ones we are after in round 2 a trade up is almost a must.  

I doubt we draft more than 4 players this season, and if we end up with only 3 studs, I'm fine with that. As Igo points out, we will end up cutting good players this season (both Deangelo and Todman had decent runs with the Steelers last season after we cut them). Anyone we bring in needs to be an improvement (within the next couple of seasons) over someone we have, or be a depth player who can make an immediate impact on ST (see Mayo from last draft).

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5 hours ago, TheWiz said:

Titans have pick number 33, 43 and 45. 

I think we could easily get 43 or 45. 

Make it happen DG. Would love to move up and get Germain Ifedi or Sterling Shepard. 

According to the "NFL Draft Value Chart", moving from 62 to 45 would cost us our 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 7th round picks. While I agree that it may be worth it for the right player (Shepard?), that's a lot of eggs in 1 basket.

http://walterfootball.com/draftchart.php

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