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3 hours ago, jdpanther5 said:

I'm expecting an OT signing as well, but I think it'd be at the expense of Foucault. Not sure I see him hanging around as a 5th OT. Extra spot would go to a TE that can block.

Too funny.  Too Typical.  @jdpanther5 says clearly in 3 sentences what it takes me half a page to say!  I have had too many years of needing to bloviate in writing reports & funding proposals for bureaucratic organizations.  I have officially become a windbag!

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Wow our secondary on paper doesn't look good at all. Possibly worst in the league at this pount

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12 minutes ago, Camp Fodder said:

Wow our secondary on paper doesn't look good at all. Possibly worst in the league at this pount

Which is why the Eric Berry situation and their cap cluster gnaws on me.  We'd have to give up something (a 1st, a pick and a player, or if not a 1st or player, multiple other picks-and any of those would sting), but we'd instantly have the total package, "The Fifth Dimension", for a younger player than Norman at the same cost we wanted to pay Norman.

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That group of corners is worrisome 

we better have a damned good pass rush. 

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4 minutes ago, bigdog10 said:

That group of corners is worrisome 

we better have a damned good pass rush. 

overreaction there a little bit.....we brought guys off the street last year that were pretty damn good....these are long lean INT machines that the HogFather has drafted.  

 

Lets let this play out...I have a good feeling HogFather will be getting slurped off in his nipple high shorts this time next season with this move

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I'm not seeing the need for a 5th safety. I think I'd rather see an additional receiver, also don't see the need for nine offensive lineman, Gradkowski can play G/C as well as Remmers being able to back up C. I see one of the extra guards losing a spot to a T signing before I see us keeping ten total lineman. 

Aside from that I agree with most of the roster, I think I'd swap Byrd for Brown, and Garrett is my 6th receiver, I think we've seen Browns ceiling, he showed me the same as his rookie year solid 3rd to 5th option. While Byrd may be able to eventually replace Ginn, and Garrett adds another option with size at receiver even if he doesn't see the field often as a rookie. 

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Looking at our Priority Free Agents the last few years:

2014 - Philly Brown ($15,000 signing bonus), Andrew Norwell ($12k)

2015 - Dean Marlowe ($15k), Arthur Miley ($15k)

2016 - Jeremy Cash ($20k)

All but one is generally expected to make the roster this year.  The only other one, Miley, is someone to keep an eye on as possibly getting that 5th DE spot too.

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1 hour ago, KB_fan said:

I have a sneaking suspicion we'll keep 4 TEs, (or 3 "TEs" and a 2nd "FB").  It seems to me we're trying hard to find someone in that hybrid FB-TE role.  I've been assuming Sandland is more of a receiving-TE to groom behind Greg.   I think we're grooming someone to replace both Ed Dickson & Mike Tolbert.    I'm not totally sure Dickson will make the roster.  Our sheer aggressiveness in purging the roster of other veterans this season (Cotch, Harper, Boykin, J-No, [and think too that we seemed prepared to let CJ and Tolbert walk...!], and bringing in so many TEs in addition to Sandland suggests to me that Gettleman wants to see real change at this position and wants young guys to be playing.  But how soon that change happens is had for me to judge.

 

I think Sandland is more balanced TE, He will def help in the run game but having the other HB/TE role will allow panthers to run the ball on either direction without defense keying in and it also allows the either one of the "TE /HB" to be released for passing option. This package would allows us multiple option with the run game and play action.

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8 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

Looking at our Priority Free Agents the last few years:

2014 - Philly Brown ($15,000 signing bonus), Andrew Norwell ($12k)

2015 - Dean Marlowe ($15k), Arthur Miley ($15k)

2016 - Jeremy Cash ($20k)

All but one is generally expected to make the roster this year.  The only other one, Miley, is someone to keep an eye on as possibly getting that 5th DE spot too.

Nice post. 

I think Miley could make the roster (over Horton).  We certainly thought highly enough of him last season to keep him from being poached.

Also, to add to you 2016 list, I think Keyarris Garrett got $9,000.  Think I read that at the Observer.  Obviously not in the same ballpark as Cash (I was surprised at the difference, to be honest). 

DG is doing a very nice job with his PFA signings!  One of the reasons he is able to make some trades to move up to get players he likes... he's got confidence (and a track record) that he'll find some solid talent among the UDFAs.

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Man you guys are throwing around "possession receiver" like some sort of slur. That's what smitty was for the second half of his career. That's what Brandon Marshall has always been; fitz, boldin, dez, too. Garrett's movement reminds me a little of Marshall and Owens (a little slower than T.O). There have been plenty HOF WRs that run 4.5 or worse so lack of blazing speed isn't so worrisome, to me.  If he can polish off his routes, he becomes and upgrade over Philly as WR#4 - similar speed, ability to get open on and catch the deep ball despite mediocre speed, taller, bigger.

If that is the case, then the question becomes do you want Philly, Byrd or Hill as WR#5? I personally keep Philly or Byrd. Byrd if you want speed. Philly if you want continuity on offense, route running, and very high floor. Byrd is a question mark. Hill has a high ceiling but and equally low floor. Oddly, though, in the scenario I just described, where KG upgrades over Philly, its possible that could take Philly completely out of the equation and actually make room for Byrd or Hill because of their speed.

I'm all for whichever WRs can prove they can play. I think Hill has been proving the exact opposite. I know you can't teach size and speed; but what you can teach and improve upon is catching the ball and running routes.... in the league long enough to be considered a veteran and we haven't seen Hill do either.

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1 hour ago, Untouchable said:

Looking at our Priority Free Agents the last few years:

2014 - Philly Brown ($15,000 signing bonus), Andrew Norwell ($12k)

2015 - Dean Marlowe ($15k), Arthur Miley ($15k)

2016 - Jeremy Cash ($20k)

All but one is generally expected to make the roster this year.  The only other one, Miley, is someone to keep an eye on as possibly getting that 5th DE spot too.

Wow, we've got another Priority Free Agent who we reportedly gave a 20K bonus to. 

Devon "Rockhead" Johnson

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/nfl-blog/article78658547.html

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1 hour ago, Camp Fodder said:

Wow our secondary on paper doesn't look good at all. Possibly worst in the league at this pount

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14 minutes ago, KB_fan said:

Wow, we've got another Priority Free Agent who we reportedly gave a 20K bonus to. 

Devon "Rockhead" Johnson

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/nfl-blog/article78658547.html

Look for him to be potentially that "4th TE" too. Clearly we are looking strongly at him to be Tolbert's future replacement. 

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@Jeremy Igo has Trai Turner ever once slid over to RT in practice that you've observed?

It just seems to me, at his size and agility, that he could at the very least play that position if called upon.  Which would be a piece with the rest of the OL seemingly having cross-trained at multiple positions over the years.

Now I'm not saying I'd rather he play RT than RG, just saying if there was an "emergency" on the right side, could we slide him over and let someone else play RG?

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Jeremy,

Did you find this easier to do than in the past? 

To me, we are going to leave a lot of good players out there for other teams. If Hill makes the roster, do not be surprised in Garrett does not suffer a season-ending injury.

I think the TE position is going to change--We want one that can block (Since the super bowl was not enough motivation for Dickson) and we want one that can play from the backfield.  Do not be surprised to see Dickson cut.

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