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A-Rob, Watkins? Not likely. The money is looking just too funny

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27 minutes ago, AggieLean said:

Tempered my expectations for a Mike Wallace type signing, and I’d be fine with that

I don't know who would be sad about signing Mike Wallace. He is what we need, and he could come a lot cheaper than the top guys.

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15 minutes ago, Trill OG said:

I don't know who would be sad about signing Mike Wallace. He is what we need, and he could come a lot cheaper than the top guys.

Right...Probably the closest thing to Ginn and we've seen what having just that kinda threat does for Cam and this offense

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9 hours ago, GoobyPls said:

It’s called backloading a contract 

 

10 hours ago, top dawg said:

A new owner---a sharp one---likely has an eagle eye on that as well.  It may be the absolute quickest way for Marty to be axed 

Yeah,  @thomas96 already said that,  and that was my response. 

I suppose that Hurney could justify that to a new owner,  but it still wouldn't be a good look,  especially if it doesn't work.  There is even more justification not to back load a contract when guys have injury histories.  It may be viewed as an unnecessary gamble indicative of being too concerned with the short term at the expense of the long term.  Moreover you have to realize that Jerry Richardson is still the owner of the team, and a lot of this is going to come down to how he feels about the situation.  Would he really let Hurney go down the same rab---err,  snake hole twice? I know that everyone wants to believe that it's the same old Hurney,  but he has compelling reasons not to do this. 

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If Ryan Kalil sits one play due to his neck without a pay cut, I want Marty fired. I hope that Kalil's neck has been examined carefully for potential long-term issues, but I get the feeling Marty has not done that.

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Why is it that every season every team in our division can go grab the players we need but we have to settle for scraps? This just doesnt make sense

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12 hours ago, WOW!! said:

We could help this a little by cutting Sheppardz ass right?? And Kali has to take a pay cut or cut him as well..

We could save $2.1M on the cap if we cut Sheppard now or $2.8M if we designate him as a post-June 1 cut.

Not a bunch, but it might be worth it.  I was kinda excited about the Sheppard signing because I saw him play a lot in college and thought he was a good player and then I thought he showed "potential" in TB.  But he ended up being horrible, so I think there's more value in cutting him than keeping him.  Depends on whether Ron "I love my worthless veteran players" Rivera wants to keep him or not I would think.

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12 hours ago, top dawg said:

A new owner---a sharp one---likely has an eagle eye on that as well.  It may be the absolute quickest way for Marty to be axed 

yeah, and if there was ever a year to really blow it.

 

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13 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

I've been telling y'all this all along but no one is listening.

But continue on with your bickering over guys that will sign elsewhere.

 

 

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Window is c losing. backload the mother fugers. the draft is not the answer.

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Also with Hurney, he backloaded players already on the team when we weren't consider for winning a championship. people may take better deals just to come here. nobody wants to go to cleveland, why you think they got that much cap space?

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14 hours ago, thomas96 said:

Easy answer: Backloaded contracts. Hurt us in the future, maybe help us this year. Hurney did it his first go around here.

Almost all teams that win a SB do this. 

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"unless they release Russell Shepherd"

 

Seems like a no brainer if it means signing ARob or Watkins.

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Good lord guys.  You don't go to the Mazzerati dealership if you've got $5000 in your pocket.  We're not signing guys that will cost 10/12 million per year.  We can't.

Let's think this through.

We have about 20 million in cap after the Gano signing.

We need to pay Peppers at least 4m.

We need around 3m for our rookies (note- its not the full 6-7m as some of these guys will simply replace current salaries at the bottom of our roster)

We can't spend up to the cap - we need reserve room for injuries, cuts, etc.  Last year this was 10m in cap.  Gotta save at least 6-8m for these events

That leaves a whopping 5-7m.

Plus there are a number of guys many think are still on the team (that are not) that we probably want but may not be minimum guys anymore - such as Byrd, Larsen, Palardy.

There may be ways to increase this.  Cut Ryan Kalil. Extend Olsen.

But there are a number of significant holes left - RB, TE2, S, DT2, P, QB2, G so spending all of our money on 1 spot is not likely.

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