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Panthers Offense 24th in points

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“What are we in wins?” - Cam Newton

In all seriousness I think they are better than that. Defense just can’t get off field

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The offense feels different this year.  Newton is stepping up into the pocket more, and it feels like he's still getting comfortable there.  He likes room to run, but I think this change was necessary for our line situation.   Our run game feels like it has opened up.  That last quarter we showed we can pass.  It just doesn't seem that a huddle or taking 30sec between snaps needs to break all that.  Dropped passes, high throws,  hopefully will subside.

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12 minutes ago, Mage said:

“What are we in wins?” - Cam Newton

In all seriousness I think they are better than that. Defense just can’t get off field

I'm not sure the defense can be blamed for 3 quarters of punts.

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24 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Rivera wants to try to force a square peg into a round hole. A lot of the slow rolling complaints we had under Shila carry over to Norv. It's time to just understand that this snail paced offense is what he wants. He wants a clock grinding ball control offense, but we don't have the personnel for it. The personnel is built to play fast and get chunk yardage.

Exactly 100%... Rivera needs to help Washington with the defense and let Norv run the show on offense.  Cam has proven this year, especially over the last 3 games, that he is comfortable and capable running a wide open, pass-centric attack.

 

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13 minutes ago, Manther said:

The offense feels different this year.  Newton is stepping up into the pocket more, and it feels like he's still getting comfortable there.  He likes room to run, but I think this change was necessary for our line situation.   Our run game feels like it has opened up.  That last quarter we showed we can pass.  It just doesn't seem that a huddle or taking 30sec between snaps needs to break all that.  Dropped passes, high throws,  hopefully will subside.

Yep.  We have the pieces to run a wide open offensive attack.  I understand going no-huddle as the base offense is maybe not sustainable, but what happened to doing more of what we did in 2015 when we consistently got to the line with 15+ seconds on the play clock?    That allowed Cam to make adjustments, change the play, etc.

Cam has earned the right to do this.  The most underrated part of Cam's game is his mental prowess in surveying defenses and making the right read.  He misses some throws, but it is almost always due to shoddy mechanics rather than not understanding where the ball needs to be.

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remember we had an early bye.  18th in ppg.  Still 4-2

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We’re also 12th in points per drive which is more indicative of a how an offense is performing.

You can’t score if you don’t have the ball and for the most part we don’t have the ball as much as our opponent does. In fact we are 17th in time of possession and 22nd in defensive drive success rate.

Furthermore our offense actually gains 33.94 yards per drive (ranked 14th), our defense gives up 33.88 yards per drive (ranked 20th).

This past weeks game just happened to have a horrible combination of offensive and defensive failures (in quarters one through three) but overall the defense has been an issue more than the offense.

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2 hours ago, Mage said:

Defense just can’t get off field

So if we're 24th in points, our defense must be doing pretty good for the team to be 4-2.

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2 hours ago, Manther said:

https://247sports.com/nfl/tennessee-titans/ContentGallery/NFL-offensive-scoring-rankings-2018-121722415/#121722415_24

6 games in, and we're in Shula territory with a lot more WR weapons and an upgrade at running back.  The Oline is not performing that much different than last year.  Why?  

We won't finish there.  Mark the tape.

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We need to be losing by double digits before allowing our offense to function like one in the 21st century

 

also we’ve our bye so that stat is flukey

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2 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

So if we're 24th in points, our defense must be doing pretty good for the team to be 4-2.

Okay but they still can't get off the field 

Last week against the Redskins they didn't give up a bunch of points, but the Redskins still had a lot of long, clock eating drives. We had three offensive drives in the second half. Of course, the Redskins are also built for that, they're one of the best clock managing teams in the NFL. That's what Alex Smith is good at.

The reason we were able to comeback this week is because our defense was finally able to get off the field.

I'm glad we haven't been giving up points as much, that's a step up from the form show in the Falcons and Giants games.

Once they can stop drives more consistently, we'll be golden.

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2 hours ago, Rags said:

Okay but they still can't get off the field 

Last week against the Redskins they didn't give up a bunch of points, but the Redskins still had a lot of long, clock eating drives. We had three offensive drives in the second half. Of course, the Redskins are also built for that, they're one of the best clock managing teams in the NFL. That's what Alex Smith is good at.

The reason we were able to comeback this week is because our defense was finally able to get off the field.

I'm glad we haven't been giving up points as much, that's a step up from the form show in the Falcons and Giants games.

Once they can stop drives more consistently, we'll be golden.

Points wins games. 

Would it be better if our offense had clock eating drives, and kept our defense fresh, so that our defense could play lights out and get off the field??? Well, yeah. Perfect world. 

Yet we're winning. 

We haven't even come close to playing our best football, and we're 4-2.  Rivera teams tend to peak around December, when they're supposed to. 

If our offense can start games quicker, I believe we'll be alright. 

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