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Should we trade for Calais Campbell?

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Now that snacks has been traded to Detroit, this is the best option for the Panthers. Marty make it so!

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The difference between trading for Allen & now trading for Campbell is Allen knew he was at the end of his career & wanted to play for a Super Bowl contender. Thus, he requested a trade from the Bears & Gettleman loves to use former pro-bowlers/1st rounders for a season or two. Plus, he was going to be cheap (only cost us a little less than a Mil).

On the other hand, Campbell is still in his prime & could very well last for many more seasons. He has no reason to want out of Jacksonville, at least not yet. He has more time to spare than Allen did, & the Jags could still be Super Bowl contenders. Plus, i'm not sure if we have the money to pay for him. If we're going to trade for a DE, it would have to be someone cheap and/or still on their rookie contract. Just like what the 'Aints did with Eli Apple.

I like the idea, but it ain't gonna happen. Someone like Dante Fowler Jr might work though. He's on his last year & so we could use him as a one-year rental.

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5 minutes ago, MountaineerChemist10 said:

 

On the other hand, Campbell is still in his prime & could very well last for many more seasons. He has no reason to want out of Jacksonville, at least not yet. He has more time to spare than Allen did, & the Jags could still be Super Bowl contenders. Plus, i'm not sure if we have the money to pay for him. If we're going to trade for a DE, it would have to be someone cheap and/or still on their rookie contract. Just like what the 'Aints did with Eli Apple.

Campbell is 32 years old...he might have a few years left maybe but he's on the last leg of his career...he isn't Peppers who's a freak lasting this long at his age.  Look at what happened to CJ after 30.  Granted the leg whip that took him down a few years ago didn't help...but he fell off a cliff, who's to say Campbell won't do that in a year or two?

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21 hours ago, Nails said:

He played organized football this year for Richmond.  He is a genetic freak and has kept in phenomenal shape.  He would be the second best player on this defense on Sunday if given a uniform.

31 other teams have passed on him for a reason. 

His ship has sailed for the nfl after he was in Dallas 

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19 minutes ago, Dunn said:

Campbell is 32 years old...he might have a few years left maybe but he's on the last leg of his career...he isn't Peppers who's a freak lasting this long at his age.  Look at what happened to CJ after 30.  Granted the leg whip that took him down a few years ago didn't help...but he fell off a cliff, who's to say Campbell won't do that in a year or two?

Jared Allen was 33 or 34 I think when he was here 

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37 minutes ago, Paintballr said:

31 other teams have passed on him for a reason. 

His ship has sailed for the nfl after he was in Dallas 

Yeah because their team didn’t have a rapport with him and his name is synonymous with evil because of the timing of the Rice video and the desperate need to find another villain immediately.

Also, because the other 31 have invested draft or free agent capital in the defensive end position in a way the Carolina Panthers have not.

We were also told after a Salt Lake Screaming Eagles online poll ended in a dead heat photo finish with slightly more no votes to sign him that he would never play organized football again.  He was humble and committed enough to play in the Spring League and with Richmond however, being the great teammate he was here which landed him the franchise tag after 4 years and had RR and TD lauding his praises and begging our hypocritical, creepy, ex-owner for his return.

Dave Tepper supposedly has brass balls and supposedly wants to win a Super Bowl.

32 teams also passed on a REAL criminal (FELON) Tyreek Hill 4/5 tines too.

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I'm not a big fan of trading assets for the right to pay an older player, who will probably start decling soon, big money.

His salary for the next three years is $15m, $12m, $15m.  Like others have said would be responsible for the entire $15 this year.

https://overthecap.com/player/calais-campbell/385/

If he was younger and was due $10 million each year for the next 3 that would be different.

People always forget that you don't trade for players you trade for their contracts.  His value isn't just determined by his play on the field but the type of salary you incur.

It just all depends on what it would take to get him.

On the flip side there would be no guaranteed money so you could make the argument that you could you pay him $7m this year and $12m next year and if he starts to decline you could release him before the $15m year.

If this is Peppers last year it could be a good bridge until we develop some younger players.  We definitely need to look at drafting some this next offseason.

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We've got young DEs on the roster that we refuse to play and develop in a situation in which we clearly need to. That should tell you all you need to know about how much we're actually worried about it, TBQH.

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3 hours ago, Nails said:

Yeah because their team didn’t have a rapport with him and his name is synonymous with evil because of the timing of the Rice video and the desperate need to find another villain immediately.

Also, because the other 31 have invested draft or free agent capital in the defensive end position in a way the Carolina Panthers have not.

We were also told after a Salt Lake Screaming Eagles online poll ended in a dead heat photo finish with slightly more no votes to sign him that he would never play organized football again.  He was humble and committed enough to play in the Spring League and with Richmond however, being the great teammate he was here which landed him the franchise tag after 4 years and had RR and TD lauding his praises and begging our hypocritical, creepy, ex-owner for his return.

Dave Tepper supposedly has brass balls and supposedly wants to win a Super Bowl.

32 teams also passed on a REAL criminal (FELON) Tyreek Hill 4/5 tines too.

I get it. If he has changed and become humble and a great teammate, that’s a fantastic. 

The fact of the matter is that had a second chance in Dallas. He signed a 1 year 11 million contract that Dallas took a huge risk one knowing he was going to be suspended. His 10 game suspension was dropped to a 4 game. He was able to play in 12 games for Dallas and recorded 6 sacks and 32 pressures. Is that worth it in Dallas’ eyes? Maybe, maybe not. He then went on twitter posting crazy poo, and was criticized by Jason Garrett who is practically a puppet and hardly has a thought for him self in the public as being a bad influence for young players. He also drove his damn car into water I believe and had a drug charge in Dallas. That was his chance after being suspended for an entire year. You can argue this or that if he deserved to be suspended so much or if the league was pushing hard due to Ray Rice. But he blew his second chance in Dallas. That was his reset point and he didn’t embrace it. 

If the dude has become a better person great for him. He’s the same age as me, only 3 days apart. I know I did stupid poo when I was younger, and have changed, but he/you need to realize after not playing in the NFL and only playing in like 12 games since 2014 is not great not matter what shape you stay in. The last player I know of that has attempted to get back in the league after not playing for almost 4 years was JaMarcus Russell and he got just a tryout.

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