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Moton ranked in top 25 o-linemen

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I heard from the huddle our line is bottom of the league despite stats stating their in the top half and how long cam holds on to the damn dam

im told cam needs a solid oline like the saints who have the best in the league despite brees gets rid of it quicker than any qb in the league

the huddle assures me

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12 hours ago, Lumps said:

I heard from the huddle our line is bottom of the league despite stats stating their in the top half and how long cam holds on to the damn dam

im told cam needs a solid oline like the saints who have the best in the league despite brees gets rid of it quicker than any qb in the league

the huddle assures me

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Needs one of these.

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13 hours ago, mc52beast said:

https://catcrave.com/2018/12/12/taylor-moton-carolina-panthers-backup-one-best/

Moton is ranked 17th

Aints and Cons have two in top 25

Its great to see Moton do so well. Looking forward to seeing him settled in a position with a full training camp behind him. 

It’s weird that we haven’t drafted many OL recently considering the team’s struggles in this area. Moton is looking great value at that pick.

 It doesn’t even have to be a first rounder. From this list, Armstead R3, Bakhtiari R4, Kelce R6, Schwartz R4, Martin R1 are the top 5. I would be happy to add another tackle in the upcoming draft.

 

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13 minutes ago, Seoul_Panther said:

Its great to see Moton do so well. Looking forward to seeing him settled in a position with a full training camp behind him. 

It’s weird that we haven’t drafted many OL recently considering the team’s struggles in this area. Moton is looking great value at that pick.

 It doesn’t even have to be a first rounder. From this list, Armstead R3, Bakhtiari R4, Kelce R6, Schwartz R4, Martin R1 are the top 5. I would be happy to add another tackle in the upcoming draft.

 

Don't believe in Williams or don't think he's coming back?

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1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Don't believe in Williams or don't think he's coming back?

  More the latter.Williams was awesome last year. I hope whether he stays or leaves that the injury this year doesn’t affect his future play. The other thing that concerns me is that he was after big money and I have read that his agent and the Panthers were quite far apart in their valuations. This makes me wonder whether the FO will want to give him what he wants coming off a significant injury if they wouldn’t last year. I’m thinking those dreaming of getting him cut price after the injury are doing some wishful thinking. There’s a bunch of teams with a ton of extra cap space and no tackles available. In that scenario we are likely to be outbid every time.

i mean I hope he stays I really do but I don’t think it’s a given.

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46 minutes ago, Seoul_Panther said:

  More the latter.Williams was awesome last year. I hope whether he stays or leaves that the injury this year doesn’t affect his future play. The other thing that concerns me is that he was after big money and I have read that his agent and the Panthers were quite far apart in their valuations. This makes me wonder whether the FO will want to give him what he wants coming off a significant injury if they wouldn’t last year. I’m thinking those dreaming of getting him cut price after the injury are doing some wishful thinking. There’s a bunch of teams with a ton of extra cap space and no tackles available. In that scenario we are likely to be outbid every time.

i mean I hope he stays I really do but I don’t think it’s a given.

Quite far apart was before the two knee injuries, correct? His value isn’t nearly as high as it was. The health is still a concern. Also, if we hopefully get smart about losing some dead weight (Kalil and Short as post June 1st get us $20+ million in 2019 cap space, add Smith and Searcy and almost $30 million above what we have now), we will have plenty of cap for Williams if healthy. Especially since Funchess is getting WR4 money or going elsewhere.

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11 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Quite far apart was before the two knee injuries, correct? His value isn’t nearly as high as it was. The health is still a concern. 

  But if they didn’t want to give him what he wanted before the injury will they give him it now after the injury?

  I think he will get offers from elsewhere and they will exceed ours. Based on last season he is the best RT in free agency. If we lowball him he will look elsewhere. But hey if we can get him on the cheap nobody will be happier than me.

 The other thing is he may feel the Panthers aren’t valuing him-both by previous offers and by sending him out injured, which led to him getting re-injured in a contract year.

i just don’t think it’s as automatic as others in the huddle do.

Then Imagine if we do spend a big contract on him and he declines because of injury or last year being a flash in the pan! I just see a lot of risk in giving him what he wants but at the same time would love to keep 2017 Williams.

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3 hours ago, Seoul_Panther said:

  But if they didn’t want to give him what he wanted before the injury will they give him it now after the injury?

  I think he will get offers from elsewhere and they will exceed ours. Based on last season he is the best RT in free agency. If we lowball him he will look elsewhere. But hey if we can get him on the cheap nobody will be happier than me.

 The other thing is he may feel the Panthers aren’t valuing him-both by previous offers and by sending him out injured, which led to him getting re-injured in a contract year.

i just don’t think it’s as automatic as others in the huddle do.

Then Imagine if we do spend a big contract on him and he declines because of injury or last year being a flash in the pan! I just see a lot of risk in giving him what he wants but at the same time would love to keep 2017 Williams.

I think had he been healthy and could duplicate 2017, then yes he’d be inline for a huge payout. Problem is that he has one good year out of four and he’s a RT. I keep seeing things posted about him trying to move to LT. We tried it pre-2017. He looked awful at LT. It wasn’t like Moton who looked as good on the left as he did on the right (NE preseason and Dallas).

I think he’ll command a decent amount less than we were thinking before this season. Severe injury, can’t play left tackle and 1 good year won’t limit the interest (might not be a lot available) but I do think it’ll cap the salary more that pre-injury.

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20 hours ago, Silent Majority said:

Good thing it took an injury to get him some PT *rolls eyes*

Yet now that Chris Clark is apparently injured, the answer is to keep Moton on the right and put Marshall Newhouse as the starter on the left.

 

 

Ron Rivera, ladies and gentlemen.

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