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If Cam doesn’t get surgery what’s gonna stop his shoulder from giving out next season?

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Just now, Hammerin'Cam1 said:

Stopped reading here because you must have missed that game.

You don't remember when Cam from his own end zone while being illegally hit threw a rope to Samuel?

The INT Cam threw in the Red Zone was a 50/50 ball to Funchess that a real #1 WR comes down with or at the very least doesn't let it get picked off.

I always see WR's making their QB's look great by catching 50/50 balls etc. but I never really see that with Cam's receivers. Albeit, his two best WR's are basically brand new.

Huh? We’re talking about the Monday New Orleans game from this season where mcaffery had to throw the deepest pass all night

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8 minutes ago, Cdw said:

As far as I know, Cam or the Team has never come out and said exactly whats wrong or what the plan is.  At this point, I'm guessing the plan is just rest and rehab, because if it needed another surgury, surely he would have had the procedure asap to have the most rehab time.   Its a big question mark and definitely worrisome.

I don’t think Cam or the medical staff know what’s wrong with his shoulder, that’s the scary part 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Hammerin'Cam1 said:

Dude, did you watch the Cleveland game?

Then you seen when Samuel looked over the wrong shoulder late in the 4th quarter on a would be go ahead TD pass by Cam.

Samuel fuged up.

Yes I did. The only one I missed was the lions game til just the end ha great timing on my part. 

 And again I wasn’t saying mistakes and miscues weren’t to blame but their were times you could see his arm was not healthy. You really trying to say that Cam’s presser after the New Orleans game he was just full of poo saying the shoulder wasn’t getting better? Why would he say that if it wasn’t an issue? Why would he be missing Wednesday and Thursday practices( which yes probably led to a lot of the miscues) if he was healthy? That doesn’t make sense. 

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2 minutes ago, Hammerin'Cam1 said:

Read between the lines, Bright, there isn't anything wrong with the shoulder.

You can't really believe that

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8 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

I don’t think Cam or the medical staff know what’s wrong with his shoulder, that’s the scary part 

 

 

Yeah, and worrisome we havent heard anything about him getting an opinion on it from some other specialist.  You would think that would be a priority to him and the team.  Maybe its happened and we just don't know of it.

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1 hour ago, Hammerin'Cam1 said:

You're assuming Cam's shoulder "giving out" is why we started losing. Seattle, Detroit, TB, Cleveland and NO were definitely not because of his shoulder. Re-watch the games, sheep. If you re-watch those 5 games you'll see Cam's shoulder is fine. His decisions against TB is what made him throw the picks. He was throwing darts in all of these games.

Go away

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1 minute ago, Hammerin'Cam1 said:

You would have to be an idiot if you believe Cam wasn't healthy enough to win football games, given how close 5 of those post Steelers game losses were.

Healthy enough and nothing wrong with the shoulder are not the same thing.  I mean, we could have won games with short throws, we didnt, but sure we could have.  Once teams knew we couldnt go downfield we lost every game with hurt Cam.

But, you stated there is nothing wrong with the shoulder.  To believe that, you have to ignore Cam saying it hurt, the not practicing because it hurt, the pitch count, the bringing in the backup to toss hail marys.

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32 minutes ago, Hammerin'Cam1 said:

None of that is true.

Seems like you're the one that doesn't know poo 

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21 minutes ago, Hammerin'Cam1 said:

After that Saints game in his presser Cam said "..it still didn't come down to my shoulder, it came down to execution.."

Right...cause he doesn’t want to make excuses for himself and he’s always the first person to blame a loss on himself. 

He also said

“Just don't have the strength," said Newton. "There's a lot going on. It's just been the same. It's just been that."

Newton also revealed that he has not had a night "in a long time" in which he has not gotten treatment of some sort on his shoulder.

so why would he say that and why would he be missing Wednesday and Thursdays in practice to rest his arm if it wasn’t an issue? 

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What we have here might be a degenerative condition.  Sure hope not but if that’s the case he will never be right.  Really hope it’s not.

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Cam has not had surgery because there is nothing on his mri that suggests it needs to be surgically repaired.  

And that itself is more worrisome than anything.  

It could be just breaking down scar tissue... and it could be a chronic condition.  Only time will tell.  

Ts and Ps, y’all.  

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21 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

Dude is trolling 

That hammering Cameron guy always comes on here and makes alts and dumb threads.. He's been doing it for years 

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2 hours ago, Hammerin'Cam1 said:

You're assuming Cam's shoulder "giving out" is why we started losing. Seattle, Detroit, TB, Cleveland and NO were definitely not because of his shoulder. Re-watch the games, sheep. If you re-watch those 5 games you'll see Cam's shoulder is fine. His decisions against TB is what made him throw the picks. He was throwing darts in all of these games.

https://youtu.be/y2ApTrbCV_Q

If you can't see clearly Cam under throwing a deep pass you're a idiot.. Cam overthrows passes not underthrows passes.. Its clear Cam arm was dead..

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2 hours ago, Hammerin'Cam1 said:

You're assuming Cam's shoulder "giving out" is why we started losing. Seattle, Detroit, TB, Cleveland and NO were definitely not because of his shoulder. Re-watch the games, sheep. If you re-watch those 5 games you'll see Cam's shoulder is fine. His decisions against TB is what made him throw the picks. He was throwing darts in all of these games.

Cams shoulder was definitely re-injured in the Pittsburgh game.  Analyst showed the hit by Watt and Cam was completely fugged after that hit.  His shoulder never recovered.  Everyone knew it...players, coaches, analysts and fans....why would they bring in Heinke to throw hailmary's in two separate games, if Cam's shoulder was ok?  Why do you think the large majority of his passes were dump offs or slants less than 20 yards in a Norv Turner system?  Cam is hurt and hurt bad...he may be done.

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