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Mitch Kupchak post deadline presser

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1 hour ago, ncfan said:

I never wanted them to give up Any of Monk, Bridges, Or a 1st in this trade deadline.

I just wish we couldve offloaded something.

Either traded someone a 2nd straight up for Biz, similar to us doing it with a player from the Hawks a few seasons back

Or Frank and even package Lamb for a 2nd then go after a Ellington to sign

 

But for this fan bases sake.  We better hope like heck Kemba stays.  I think next year wont be much better than this.  But 2 years from now when start to take some of the Cho Shackles off with some of these bad contracts, we could be something

I agree on Frank...he kinda lost here as he won’t see much playing time.  He doesn’t fit us all that well but still a decent player.  Feel kinda bad for Frank.

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1 hour ago, ncfan said:

I never wanted them to give up Any of Monk, Bridges, Or a 1st in this trade deadline.

I just wish we couldve offloaded something.

Either traded someone a 2nd straight up for Biz, similar to us doing it with a player from the Hawks a few seasons back

Or Frank and even package Lamb for a 2nd then go after a Ellington to sign

 

But for this fan bases sake.  We better hope like heck Kemba stays.  I think next year wont be much better than this.  But 2 years from now when start to take some of the Cho Shackles off with some of these bad contracts, we could be something

I am hoping that next year is better than this year if we retain Kemba.  Monk and Miles should be better next year after getting meaningful minutes this year.  Ideally they would both start next season along with Kemba.  Something like this maybe:

Kemba/Graham

Monk/Bacon

Bridges/Batum

Marvin/MKG

Cody/Biz/Willy

We could really use our draft pick this year to turn out well.  At next year's trade deadline we will have over $40 million in expiring deals.  That could net us something nice if the situation falls right.

 

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2 minutes ago, Thelt said:

I am hoping that next year is better than this year if we retain Kemba.  Monk and Miles should be better next year after getting meaningful minutes this year.  Ideally they would both start next season along with Kemba.  Something like this maybe:

Kemba/Graham

Monk/Bacon

Bridges/Batum

Marvin/MKG

Cody/Biz/Willy

We could really use our draft pick this year to turn out well.  At next year's trade deadline we will have over $40 million in expiring deals.  That could net us something nice if the situation falls right.

 

Better as a team, yes

But that team's ceiling will be around the 6 seed as well.

Another year after, gives those kids more time to groom (Monk Litterally Just Turned 21). And some cap space to actually add valuable pieces around after the bad contracts are gone.

 

We wont quite be the 76er or Raptors then

BUT we could be pushing for a 3-4 seed

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1 minute ago, ncfan said:

Better as a team, yes

But that team's ceiling will be around the 6 seed as well.

Another year after, gives those kids more time to groom (Monk Litterally Just Turned 21). And some cap space to actually add valuable pieces around after the bad contracts are gone.

 

We wont quite be the 76er or Raptors then

BUT we could be pushing for a 3-4 seed

I agree with that assessment.  If we continue to draft well by the time the bad contracts are gone we should be in good shape and maybe a smart free agent addition away from contending in the east.  We could use another big man to develop and another wing who can score.

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9 minutes ago, Thelt said:

If we continue to draft well by the time the bad contracts are gone we should be in good

As a bottom half Eastern Conference playoff team, we'll be drafting somewhere between 16-19. Hard to find impact players there.

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4 minutes ago, djp14 said:

As a bottom half Eastern Conference playoff team, we'll be drafting somewhere between 16-19. Hard to find impact players there.

There should be some pretty good players around that area.  Not a superstar but I think Kup can find a contributor.

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2 hours ago, djp14 said:

As a bottom half Eastern Conference playoff team, we'll be drafting somewhere between 16-19. Hard to find impact players there.

We drafted MKG, Cody, Frank and Biz in the top ten.  None of those guys have worked out.  There have been some good players drafted in the 16-19 range.  We do not have to find all stars just solid players who can contribute.  A guy putting up Batum or Marvin like stats but on a rookie contract is valuable. 

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5 hours ago, djp14 said:

As a bottom half Eastern Conference playoff team, we'll be drafting somewhere between 16-19. Hard to find impact players there.

Yeah, that will be our problem if we stay the course we are currently on. NBA success is almost entirely built on superstar caliber players, not feel good stories or solid role players. Drafting outside the top 10 is dicey when it comes to finding elite players. Frankly, we have managed to even screw up top 10 picks with regularity. It's nice for the fans if we can squeak into the playoffs every other year but it will hamper our long term success unless we get some actual help for Kemba. Right now our roster is Kemba and a bunch rotational/role players. It's nice to see Monk and Bridges have flashes but we also need to be serious about the fact that neither of those guys is likely to blossom into another All-Star caliber player. Just look at our roster currently and ask yourself what you could offer up in a trade for any number of the All-Star caliber players that got traded away or are on the block this season. What could we give up to get Jimmy Butler? How about Anthony Davis? That's the big problem we have, a very real lack of overall talent.

So, something has to change if we are serious as a franchise about winning. You have to make a play for a big time talent in free agency(or more than one) or you have to go with the model that DID make the 76ers successful, which is lose. A LOT and for a long time. But, at that point you have all but wasted Kemba's entire career. 

We between the same rock and a hard place as we have been for a long time.

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I for one am going to give Kupchak the benefit of the doubt here.

Gasol and Kemba weren't going to carry this team to the second round against what is ahead of us and while I don't see Biyombo and and MKG as part of the future, giving up an unprotected first round pick would have been a huge gamble.

Kupchak seems really confident that Kemba will be back and I'm sure they can move some guys in the offseason to get Kemba some help.

Right now we have some young players in Graham, Chealey, Bacon, Monk, Macura, Bridges, and Hernangomez who could use some development and more then likely we will be adding more young players to the roster in the draft.

This is a super deep draft where mock drafts have players like Kevin Porter, DeAndre Hunter, Romeo Langford, DeAndre Hunter, Nassir Little, KZ Okpala, and Coby White going in the teens. There's a solid chance we'll get to add a good player in this years draft.

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Yeah, even with a trade/rental in Gasol, we are still likely to get swatted by the Bucks or Raptors Round 1 as the 7th or 8th seed.  And guess what?  That's likely happening without a trade as well haha.  Maybe we get lucky and climb to 5/6 but I don't see it with our inconsistencies.  Cho built a poor team structured with contracts that are hard to pair and guys that aren't worth much.  

Younger keeps: Bridges, Monk, Graham, Bacon (I still like this guy's potential)

Vet keeps: Kemba (Unless he decides to jet), Parker (If he doesn't retire)

Younger expendables: Chealey, Macura

Fair contract, good role player: Lamb, Willy 

Contracts/situations to weasel out of: The remainder of the team (Marvin, MKG, Frank, Batum, Zeller, Biz)

 

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13 hours ago, Thelt said:

I am hoping that next year is better than this year if we retain Kemba.  Monk and Miles should be better next year after getting meaningful minutes this year.  Ideally they would both start next season along with Kemba.  Something like this maybe:

Kemba/Graham

Monk/Bacon

Bridges/Batum

Marvin/MKG

Cody/Biz/Willy

We could really use our draft pick this year to turn out well.  At next year's trade deadline we will have over $40 million in expiring deals.  That could net us something nice if the situation falls right.

 

That lineup bodes for an 8-seed best case.....again, best case.

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2 hours ago, MillionDollarCam said:

I for one am going to give Kupchak the benefit of the doubt here.

Everyone should....give Kupchak the benefit of the doubt, that is.

Don't delude yourselves, Michael Jordan still makes all the key calls with this (joke of a) franchise.

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22 hours ago, Shocker said:

There should be some pretty good players around that area.  Not a superstar but I think Kup can find a contributor.

No, not in this Draft. This Draft is vastly top heavy. Terrible ass Trey Jones from Duke is supposed to be a first rounder right now. Dude is all defense and that's it. 

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11 hours ago, davos said:

Yeah, even with a trade/rental in Gasol, we are still likely to get swatted by the Bucks or Raptors Round 1 as the 7th or 8th seed.  And guess what?  That's likely happening without a trade as well haha.  Maybe we get lucky and climb to 5/6 but I don't see it with our inconsistencies.  Cho built a poor team structured with contracts that are hard to pair and guys that aren't worth much.  

Younger keeps: Bridges, Monk, Graham, Bacon (I still like this guy's potential)

Vet keeps: Kemba (Unless he decides to jet), Parker (If he doesn't retire)

Younger expendables: Chealey, Macura

Fair contract, good role player: Lamb, Willy 

Contracts/situations to weasel out of: The remainder of the team (Marvin, MKG, Frank, Batum, Zeller, Biz)

 

Lamb will warrant a good pay increase in my opinion. Not sure how the Hell we keep him. 

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Way I look at it, the trade deadline was a win/win for most of us as fans. We kept our young pieces, if Kemba leaves, so be it, we're tanking and that's okay. If he stays, awesome, because we love Kemba. Win/win for us as a fan base honestly. 

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