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Sam Amick: "Kemba More Likely To Leave Than Stay"

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16 minutes ago, Thelt said:

If they add Kemba maybe LBJ stays.

Cleveland wasn't trading that pick for a "maybe".

Hornets would've done that deal, though.

 

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27 minutes ago, djp14 said:

Cleveland wasn't trading that pick for a "maybe".

Hornets would've done that deal, though.

 

I guess we will never know.  It does not seem like a bad deal for Cleveland to me.  If LBJ leaves and they no longer want to retain Kemba they trade him at this year's trade deadline for something good.

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What really started this was that we had three players become free agents during the huge cap jump because of the new TV deal.

So instead of a player like Marvin Williams making the typical $6M he is worth, he is now being paid a number more relative to the cap (13M). The same thing happened with Cody and Nic. The Hornets should have let those guys walk and waited until inflation dropped.

Instead they got stuck with three overpaid players who account for 61% of our cap space yet only account for 33% of our points.

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10 hours ago, Thelt said:

We are hardly the first team to overpay for players and get locked into a bad cap situation.  The summer of 16 basically doomed us for several years.  It caught up several other teams too though.  The frustrating thing for me was watching the team put itself in great shape under the cap and develop a legit star in Kemba only to throw it all away for mediocre players coming off the one good year of their careers.

But after we got out of it last time Jordan swore it wouldn't happen again, and here we are.

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11 hours ago, Thelt said:

We should have traded him last season and started the tank.  The Cavs would have probably given us their high lottery pick and a decent player back for him.  I hope he stays but I am starting to think he will not.  Why would you waste your prime on a team that has never been any good and does not appear to be close to getting there?  He could go to a contender and have a solid shot at a ring.  The Mavs would be pretty good if they add Kemba.  They would not need him to be a big facilitator which makes them a good fit for him.

On the radio today some guys were suggesting there's still a window to tank this season and get an imroved draft position.  Odds of a top-6 pick are higher than odds of making the playoffs if I remember correctly.

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Honestly, we should let him walk.  We still are over a season out of the shadow of the Batum, Marvin, Biyombo contracts.  That's over 50 million in annual cap right there between the three of them.  Biyombo is a result of prior, worse decisions and contracts.  Not giving Kemba a max with the cap increase and luxury line, we will find ourselves with a decent amount to spend if we can unload just a few guys.  

We need to target new younger guys who would be okay with coming to Charlotte.  Ideally, I would go after guys like Khris Middleton, Derrick Favors, Yogi Ferrell, etc.   We could also end up as high as 4-5 in the draft (realistically speaking) so draft a guy with the biggest upside, then we essentially tank for top lottery next season again.  Reddish, Clarke, or Rui Hachimura please.  Ja Morant is my pipe dream with a trade up.  

Actually, that's my preference right there: Let Kemba walk, somehow find a way to relieve ourselves of Biyombo, MKG, Marvin, Cody, Batum...at least 1-2 of their contracts.  Also--don't re-sign Lamb.  Full tank but maybe next season trade an unprotected ‘21 1st for a legit guy as well.  

Morant+Top Lottery 2020+Solid Vets

Ok, there's my 2k19 moment lol

 

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13 hours ago, MillionDollarCam said:

What really started this was that we had three players become free agents during the huge cap jump because of the new TV deal.

So instead of a player like Marvin Williams making the typical $6M he is worth, he is now being paid a number more relative to the cap (13M). The same thing happened with Cody and Nic. The Hornets should have let those guys walk and waited until inflation dropped.

Instead they got stuck with three overpaid players who account for 61% of our cap space yet only account for 33% of our points.

Toats mcgoats 

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13 hours ago, MillionDollarCam said:

What really started this was that we had three players become free agents during the huge cap jump because of the new TV deal.

So instead of a player like Marvin Williams making the typical $6M he is worth, he is now being paid a number more relative to the cap (13M). The same thing happened with Cody and Nic. The Hornets should have let those guys walk and waited until inflation dropped.

Instead they got stuck with three overpaid players who account for 61% of our cap space yet only account for 33% of our points.

I agree with that 100%.  That is what put us behind the 8 ball.  Cho overpaid everyone that summer.

Biz was a Mitch inflicted wound though.  We could have bought out Howard or just let him ride the bench as an expiring.  His money would be coming off this summer and we would have space for Kemba. 

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On 3/11/2019 at 8:01 PM, ncfan said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

This....doesn't make sense to me. Luka is effectively the PG there. They already have KP and Luka. Why would they blow their remaining cap space on one guy that already plays the position of their budding star. Makes much more sense to go after a 3 and D guy. 

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10 minutes ago, SOJA said:

This....doesn't make sense to me. Luka is effectively the PG there. They already have KP and Luka. Why would they blow their remaining cap space on one guy that already plays the position of their budding star. Makes much more sense to go after a 3 and D guy. 

I think the most likely destinations for Kemba would be the Bucks or Jazz.  Maybe the Pacers; can see that as a solid fit.  

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5 minutes ago, davos said:

I think the most likely destinations for Kemba would be the Bucks or Jazz.  Maybe the Pacers; can see that as a solid fit.  

Bucks just inked Bledsoe to an extension otherwise that's a great fit. I still think Knicks lose out on Kyrie and chase Kemba hard. 

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3 hours ago, SOJA said:

Bucks just inked Bledsoe to an extension otherwise that's a great fit. I still think Knicks lose out on Kyrie and chase Kemba hard. 

That's true, forgot that and they'll need to ink Brogdon after a dynamite year from deep.  

Can see the Knicks.  As much rumors are floating, I don't see both Kyrie and Durant going unless they surprise us all.  I can actually see Durant leaving for NYC but Kyrie staying.  He's the ultimate wildcard in the FA.  I really think the Warriors are about to disperse while holding Curry-Thompson in tact.  

If they strike #1, think the Knicks look something like Smith Jr.+Durant+Zion+Robinson/Jordan next season and are all of a sudden a major threat.  But also the Knicks.  

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11 hours ago, SOJA said:

This....doesn't make sense to me. Luka is effectively the PG there. They already have KP and Luka. Why would they blow their remaining cap space on one guy that already plays the position of their budding star. Makes much more sense to go after a 3 and D guy. 

Actually I think it does make sense.  Kemba for all his goodness is not a great distributor.  His assist numbers have never been great.  Donic would offset that and free Kemba up to just score.  Kemba's numbers might be even better in Dallas.  I think his efficiency would be better even if he did not score quite as much.  Batum's passing helped Kemba when he first came to Charlotte, imagine him with Donic and Porzingis helping him move the ball around and get open looks.

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4 minutes ago, Thelt said:

Actually I think it does make sense.  Kemba for all his goodness is not a great distributor.  His assist numbers have never been great.  Donic would offset that and free Kemba up to just score.  Kemba's numbers might be even better in Dallas.  I think his efficiency would be better even if he did not score quite as much.  Batum's passing helped Kemba when he first came to Charlotte, imagine him with Donic and Porzingis helping him move the ball around and get open looks.

excellent point. But again Kemba would be taking the ball out of Doncic's hands, is Dallas cool with that?

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