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So I guess now not even eating fish. 

Cigsrs aren’t great for a person’s body either 

he is a grown man and can do what he wants. It’s just the oxymoron of Cam

 

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6 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

So I guess now not even eating fish. 

Cigsrs aren’t great for a person’s body either 

he is a grown man and can do what he wants. It’s just the oxymoron of Cam

 

eating crap quality meat is way worse than an occasional cigar

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Some of the fattest people i have seen are vegan, it wont matter if you are eating all that processed box/plastic wrapper BS being passed off as "food"

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1 minute ago, Peppers90 NC said:

Some of the fattest people i have seen are vegan, it wont matter if you are eating all that processed box/plastic wrapper BS being passed off as "food"

True. Most vegans I know go heavy on the carbs. I doubt Cam is doing that though. 

I think it’s great that he has a guy giving him shoulder treatment 2-3x a day. Brady has a similar person that treats him everyday.

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4 minutes ago, Dex said:

Calories in vs Calories burned determines weight. It's that simple.

Yes, but a plant based diet is still the healthiest way to live. The science is irrefutable. Of course, vegan doesn’t mean plant based.

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I’m dead serious. Please somebody close to Cam reconsider veganism long term. All you need to do is look on YouTube of ex vegans. It is not pretty. It’s a great reset diet. Historically it was used as a fast. But no civilization or tribe has ever been fully vegan. I’ve known two people who hurt themselves doing strict vegetarianism causing autoimmune and gut problems. I’m dead serious about this. Please somebody warn him or our franchise qb’s health will be in danger long term.

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10 minutes ago, Tbe said:

Yes, but a plant based diet is still the healthiest way to live. The science is irrefutable. Of course, vegan doesn’t mean plant based.

I wasn't arguing health. Just weight.

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“Plant-based” has been taken by vegans meaning no animal products whatsoever. But even the so called blue zones like Crete or Okinawans had animal products such as fish, pork and milk in their diet. Veganism is a modern experiment. No actual evidence we can replace all our nutrients on plants alone. Guys. This is not going to end well for our qb if he does this long term.

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Kind of not for the football forum...  but, can someone explain to me how you get you're daily caloric needs and protein off a vegan diet?  If I'm cutting, I usually go 1700 cals/day.  I could eat twenty 3 lbs. bags of spinach, and I would probably be at 300 calories total lol.  So, how do you get enough calories and protein...  especially if you dont add eggs or meat?  And it seems you just have to eat so much more bc the options arent calorie dense.

With the more stuff I've read, I'm thinking more about cutting out meat, but it just seems impossible.

 

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I’ve known people that are vegans for raw and good organic foods for years and are in much better shape in every singe way imaginable now. Some have lost more than 50 points, blood pressure down to under 110 over 60 from heart attack rates, cholesterol cut in half etc.

also, doing things like cigars or anything else for that matter on occasion with moderation is ok. 

 

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