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Jeremy Igo

Panthers 3-4 defense confirmed.

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2 hours ago, SwagAces9030 said:

I hate it man, we've been a 4-3 team forever and its always been our strong suit maybe I just need to adapt lol.

not forever, we were originally a 3-4

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16 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

He's never played OLB in a 43. 

43 Over

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So you were saying?

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15 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

And edge rusher in a 43, is the defensive end position. 

In the 34, it is OLB. 

OLB is NOT interchangeable between the 34 and 43. 

Bennett and Avril are at DE in all 3 snaps I posted above.

Rickey Jackson and Pat Swilling of our Dome Patrol (a 34 defense) were both OLB’s and were never considered as DE’s. 

15 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

His has been, and still is as pass rush specialist. 

Trying to state the he played a traditional 43 OLB would be like saying the Ford Pinto was a huge success for Ford. 

So maybe you should be the one that should try. 

You didn’t specify “traditional” 43 OLB, you said he “never played OLB in a 43”. Don’t try to move those goal-posts now.

6 hours ago, panthers55 said:

Said the same thing about Sam Mills in 1996. No I am not comparing the two except to say that size isn't the biggest factor in whether you can play linebacker in a 3-4. You can shed blocks with size or technique. Best to have both. But guys Shaq's size can be successful in a 3-4.

Field Mouse was sharp as a tack between the ears and had far more heart than a lot of players twice his size, can the same be said for Shaq? That’s an honest question, I’m not familiar with his film watching prowess, ect. as I am with Sam.

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Only thing that makes me nervous about all this is that since we don't have many pieces for a full 3-4 transition, we will draft heavily on defense while doing little to help Cam yet again.

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4 hours ago, Iron Saint said:

 

Field Mouse was sharp as a tack between the ears and had far more heart than a lot of players twice his size, can the same be said for Shaq? That’s an honest question, I’m not familiar with his film watching prowess, ect. as I am with Sam.

As I said in my post. I was not comparing the two so not sure why you are. Simply said that Mills was told he wasn't big enough as someone commented about Shaq. I suggested size wasn't the biggest factor. You clarified why you thought Mills was successful. I would agree on Sam. And not sure Shaq has those abilities, he honestly hasn't been that great considering he was a first rounder. Obviously the team seems to think he is worth keeping for 9 million 

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1 hour ago, pantherclaw said:

I wasn't the one that claimed he played a traditional OLB. 

OBVIOUSLY  you missed that. 

You and others said he never played OLB in a 4-3.

I don't know how you can not just say "Oh, yeah. I was wrong." 

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So much wrong and ignorance in this thread by the usual “football gods” who claim to know more football than everyone else. 

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I'm just happy Ron is finally comfortable to stay out of the offensive side of the ball.. 

And if this finally gets him to concentrate on being more imaginative with his playcalling and scheme hooray.. Ron being a disciple of Jim Johnson and Buddy Ryan was his big selling point in the 1st place.. Now I hope this is all a sign that he's ready to be innovative...

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1 hour ago, Moo Daeng said:

You and others said he never played OLB in a 4-3.

I don't know how you can not just say "Oh, yeah. I was wrong." 

The point was he is a pass rush specialist. Anybody saying he's a replacement for Davis doesn't know football, period. 

As for wording, yes, I said he never played OLB in a 43,  which was a direct reference to those trying to say he's more of a linebacker, which is not the case at all. Y'all want to thump your chest l, go ahead. Doesn't make y'alls original point any more correct. 

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I can’t tell if this is a troll post or not. We aren’t running a 3-4 full time. Using both 4-3 and 3-4 bases. Will Irvin play some OLB? Yes, that’s what he’s saying here. No where does he say we are transitioning to a full 3-4 or that he won’t play any DE

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All this talk about getting guys who fit Ron Rivera's hybrid defensive scheme...

 

what happens when Rivera is fired next season?

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2 hours ago, Panthers8969 said:

I can’t tell if this is a troll post or not. We aren’t running a 3-4 full time. Using both 4-3 and 3-4 bases. Will Irvin play some OLB? Yes, that’s what he’s saying here. No where does he say we are transitioning to a full 3-4 or that he won’t play any DE

Exactly. Igo likes to stir things up.

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1 hour ago, SOJA said:

All this talk about getting guys who fit Ron Rivera's hybrid defensive scheme...

 

what happens when Rivera is fired next season?

I don't think the 3-4 will be used so heavily as posters think. It's just going to be a formation we use every now and then along with some other looks. 4-3 will still be the base.

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