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20 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

Welp, we know for a fact bernie didn’t say that. 

Is your point that the candidates themselves don’t tweet every tweet? That social media managers exist? What’s your point?

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But we should elect the guy who can win the coveted independent vote...

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16 hours ago, TheBlue said:

You largely dismiss anything that doesn’t already confirm the narrative you’ve built in your head. Be honest with yourself

my present narrative is there is a tight race of folks with no front runner....all competing to lose to Donald Trump at this stage. 

I've already told you I don't give a fug who comes out with the Democratic nominee as they get my vote no matter who they are.  I've merely championed that the one who can get the largest amounts of votes in a national election should be the nominee and that THAT fact is fluid and can evolve.  I endorsed Biden as that dude a one point because there was a window where he was the true lead dog.  I always stated that could change because Biden was simply Biden.  

But all a Bernie Bro makes out of any discussion is someone not pimping Bernie as the savior and they then do the Bernie Bro thing yall do. 

and I have gone on record, the only actual candidate I like on the Democratic side is Yang.   But that is irrelevant when it comes to winning in 2020.  

 

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1 hour ago, Moorgan said:

But we should elect the guy who can win the coveted independent vote...

moderate vote.  They exist on the left, right and middle.    They aren't blind to one party even if they identify as Democrat or Republican.   

and yeah, they pretty much determine every election.  As the far right and left are always in large part going to do what they do and don't have the numbers. 

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1 hour ago, Moorgan said:

But we should elect the guy who can win the coveted independent vote...

As much bitching as there was about a rich republican light Bloomberg entering the race I always saw it as a positive.  He is pulling hard from the moderate and soft Biden support.  

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1 minute ago, Fryfan said:

As much bitching as there was about a rich republican light Bloomberg entering the race I always saw it as a positive.  He is pulling hard from the moderate and soft Biden support.  

too many candidates does skew who really could be the biggest draw though in a national election.  The whole vote splitting aspect. 

So Bloomberg does pull from potential Biden supporters.    So does Mayor Pete.   Or vice versa. 

What the Dem field really needs if serious about getting the best candidate in terms of votes to have it drop to a two person race. 

Bernie or Warren vs Biden or Pete or whoever from that crowd

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4 minutes ago, CRA said:

too many candidates does skew who really could be the biggest draw though in a national election.  The whole vote splitting aspect. 

So Bloomberg does pull from potential Biden supporters.    So does Mayor Pete.   Or vice versa. 

What the Dem field really needs if serious about getting the best candidate in terms of votes to have it drop to a two person race. 

Bernie or Warren vs Biden or Pete or whoever from that crowd

Im one of those vote against Trump no matter what people.  I will push in the primary and vote my heart but by the time it gets to Maryland it usually is pointless.

 

From this standpoint if it HAS to be a moderate I am not sure why Amy is not getting more traction - she is basically a female biden with less baggage and less chance of dying during her term.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Fryfan said:

Im one of those vote against Trump no matter what people.  I will push in the primary and vote my heart but by the time it gets to Maryland it usually is pointless.

 

From this standpoint if it HAS to be a moderate I am not sure why Amy is not getting more traction - she is basically a female biden with less baggage and less chance of dying during her term.

 

 

yeah, don't know what that is about.  Given Biden's senile age and the fact he is Biden and Mayor Pete's lifestyle (not that I care) it is shocking how little ground she has made. 

I mean, frankly....I think Amy and even Harris if you had to pick from that wing of the party are stronger options than those that have lead them.   

I also think a woman not named Warren could pose some problems for Trump. 

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34 minutes ago, CRA said:

and Mayor Pete's lifestyle

What?

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45 minutes ago, Fryfan said:

Im one of those vote against Trump no matter what people.  I will push in the primary and vote my heart but by the time it gets to Maryland it usually is pointless.

 

From this standpoint if it HAS to be a moderate I am not sure why Amy is not getting more traction - she is basically a female biden with less baggage and less chance of dying during her term.

 

 

I think I’ve decided that I’m Bernie or Bernie as a write in for the general. I’m obviously Bernie for the primary.
 

But I think it’s a cowardly move for me because I’m also in Maryland, so there’s no real stakes or consequences to my “principled” vote. What I’m saying is that every candidate besides Bernie is awful in my eyes but my voting for only him has no effect on anything.

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