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11 hours ago, bull123 said:

LOL....me too...loads of fun seeing these guys get so worked up

Typical....trump...voter...

...Cares more about "owning" liberals then actual policy and functioning of our government.

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fug Beto - this is really your "climate change" plan?

 

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"Meeting with farmers like the Sargents inspired me to revise my climate plan to make sure that federal crop insurance covers stored grain. Our plan will also protect communities against flooding and create new market incentives for carbon farming -- farming in more environmentally sustainable ways. And as president, I would work with rural America to end these awful trade wars.

We won't address climate change or a broken economy with half measures or with only half the country. We need to go to forgotten places like Pacific Junction and Seminole -- and not only pay lip service to their problems, but listen to their ideas and welcome them to be a part of the solution. That's the only way we can transform this moment of peril into a moment of potential for all of us." - Beto O'rouke

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/21/opinions/rural-america-trade-war-climate-change-beto-orourke/index.html

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The more the dims focus on their “investigations” and “getting Trump” the more likely they are to get smoked in the election 

you all obviously don’t think this...but just keep on this path and see what happens

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20 minutes ago, bull123 said:

The more the dims focus on their “investigations” and “getting Trump” the more likely they are to get smoked in the election 

you all obviously don’t think this...but just keep on this path and see what happens

again, Dems won the house largely because the nation is tired of the Trump poo show and they wanted someone to hold Trump accountable.   So your point is proven false. 

Dems haven't been successful.  THAT is a problem. 

Nancy's goal is to do that without impeachment.  She thinks holding him accountable and exposing him through other means is best.  Probably true.  But they aren't having success due to Trump double and triple down on pooping all over what we are.  They have to find a way and quick to see some success.  

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9 minutes ago, CRA said:

again, Dems won the house largely because the nation is tired of the Trump poo show and they wanted someone to hold Trump accountable.   So you point is proven false. 

Dems haven't been successful.  THAT is a problem. 

Nancy's goal is to do that without impeachment.  She thinks holding him accountable and exposing him through other means is best.  Probably true.  But they aren't having success due to Trump double and triple down on pooping all over what we are.  They have to find a way and quick to see some success.  

They dislike of Trump absolutely trumped the love of him.  Also the Republican voter group continues to age and white women seem to be slightly souring on Trump.

 

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7. Haters of Trump > Lovers of Trump

Overall, 45% of people said they approved of Trump as President while 54% disapproved. But dig into the numbers and you see that those who dislike Trump strongly outpace those who strongly like him. Almost half of the public (46%) strongly disapproves of Trump while 31% strongly approve of him. Given how big a factor Trump was in voters' minds (38% said their vote was to show opposition to Trump, 26% said it was to express support for him), the passion the President brought out in his opponents clearly influenced the overall outcome.

 

 

 

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23 minutes ago, Fryfan said:

They dislike of Trump absolutely trumped the love of him.  Also the Republican voter group continues to age and white women seem to be slightly souring on Trump.

 

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7. Haters of Trump > Lovers of Trump

Overall, 45% of people said they approved of Trump as President while 54% disapproved. But dig into the numbers and you see that those who dislike Trump strongly outpace those who strongly like him. Almost half of the public (46%) strongly disapproves of Trump while 31% strongly approve of him. Given how big a factor Trump was in voters' minds (38% said their vote was to show opposition to Trump, 26% said it was to express support for him), the passion the President brought out in his opponents clearly influenced the overall outcome.

 

 

 

Main reason Republicans are willing to sell their souls for Trump? 

You hit it on the head.  Each year that passes they lose votes.  Which means ultimately they lose.  They know they can't keep power down the road under the current format of politics. 

So when the debates essentially become Trump destroying us but they can keep power? Well? They have shown what they will do. 

and in 2020 when crazy interference occurs? They won’t care.  They know it is coming.  They know Trump will excuse it.  And if Trump refuses to leave in a loss? They will back it. 

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2 hours ago, Fryfan said:

They dislike of Trump absolutely trumped the love of him.  Also the Republican voter group continues to age and white women seem to be slightly souring on Trump.

 

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7. Haters of Trump > Lovers of Trump

Overall, 45% of people said they approved of Trump as President while 54% disapproved. But dig into the numbers and you see that those who dislike Trump strongly outpace those who strongly like him. Almost half of the public (46%) strongly disapproves of Trump while 31% strongly approve of him. Given how big a factor Trump was in voters' minds (38% said their vote was to show opposition to Trump, 26% said it was to express support for him), the passion the President brought out in his opponents clearly influenced the overall outcome.

 

 

 

take out NY & California and see what these numbers say

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35 minutes ago, bull123 said:

take out NY & California and see what these numbers say

Okay, take out NY and California and then talk about all the other numbers as well.  Like our economy, jobs and everything else.   For example Cali is the world’s 5th largest economy.  NY the world’s 11th largest economy. 

Those two states essentially make us what we are.   So nah, let’s not take them out.   America disapproves. 

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Democrats do need to take some pointers from Nancy in regards to Trump.  She remains about the only Dem that successfully can rattle Trump.   

Whoever wins the Democratic Nom. needs that skill

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1 hour ago, bull123 said:

take out NY & California and see what these numbers say

lmfao this argument is always incredible. "eliminate most of the people and the remaining people agree with me." really shows how much the right wing wants to actually represent america vs. destroy it

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2 hours ago, bull123 said:

take out NY & California and see what these numbers say

Okay,

 

Take a look darker red means the net disappoval rating for Trump is high.  Dark blue means the net approval rating for him is high.

 

Seems like a few non coast states dont like him and even big states like texas (which apparently can stay while NY and Cali need to be removed) he is barely in the positive

 

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Morning Consult has some interesting data behind the current primary polling figures:

 

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Interesting that Sanders supporters would migrate to Biden (as opposed to someone like Warren) while Buttgieg supporters would go to Biden and not Sanders or Warren.

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