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Don't need one yet. You obviously don't know the Constitution.

The only vote required is when the House needs to confirm the articles of impeachment, or all the charges.

"The constitutional text on this issue is spare. The Constitution simply says that the House has the sole power of impeachment. Ultimately, if the House wants to impeach someone, it needs to muster a simple majority in support of articles of impeachment that can be presented to the Senate. How the House gets there is entirely up to the chamber itself to determine. There is no constitutional requirement that the House take two successful votes on impeachment, one to authorize some kind of inquiry and one to ratify whatever emerges from that inquiry. An impeachment inquiry is not “invalid” because there has been no vote to formally launch it, and any eventual impeachment would not be “invalid” because the process that led to it did not feature a floor vote authorizing a specific inquiry."

The Constitution simply says the House decides its own process for impeachment and, since they have sole power, they make up the rules. Because impeachment is a political process and not a criminal process, there are no rules of evidence or the "due process"  the White House is whining about.

A basic civics class for you and most of the GOP might be helpful. Even Moscow Mitch McConnell and Lisping Lindsey Graham seem to have forgotten how it works and they were both all about impeaching Clinton for a blowjob.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The president’s businesses made themselves appear more profitable to lenders and less profitable to tax officials. One expert calls the differing numbers “versions of fraud.”

This is property tax, it was made public because he appealed to have his tax bill lower every 9 years. 

https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-inc-podcast-never-before-seen-trump-tax-documents-show-major-inconsistencies

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13 hours ago, bull123 said:

So no impeachment vote yet pelosi

wonder why?

Tell us your thoughts? 

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White House officials are becoming increasingly frustrated at revelations from the closed-door hearings. Given that there is no presidential counsel in the room, they struggle to frame a defense, learning about almost daily bombshells only from news reports, CNN reported on Tuesday.

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Ahhh poor Trump - cant spin his actions ahead of time.  Left to scramble as the dirt drips out.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Fryfan said:

White House officials are becoming increasingly frustrated at revelations from the closed-door hearings. Given that there is no presidential counsel in the room, they struggle to frame a defense, learning about almost daily bombshells only from news reports, CNN reported on Tuesday.

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Ahhh poor Trump - cant spin his actions ahead of time.  Left to scramble as the dirt drips out.

 

 

You know the Pube Reps are feeding him. 

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11 hours ago, ImaginaryKev said:

 

Is that real? Unbelievable. 

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"Based on the President's direction, we were faced with a choice: We could abandon the goal of a White House meeting for President Zelensky, which we all believed was crucial to strengthening U.S.-Ukrainian ties and furthering long-held U.S. foreign policy goals in the region; or we could do as President Trump directed and talk to Mr. Giuliani to address the President's concerns," Sondland will testify.

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Impeachment is a slam dunk.  The question that remains is will the senate do its job - and its likely they wont.

 

 

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US Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland was directed by President Donald Trump to work with Rudy Giuliani on Ukraine, he told Congress on Thursday, and was left with a choice: Abandon efforts to bolster a key strategic alliance or work to satisfy the demands of the President's personal lawyer.

Sondland said he wasn't aware until "much later" that Giuliani's agenda might have included an effort to "prompt the Ukrainians" to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter and to involve the Ukrainians in the President's campaign, according to his opening statement, which was obtained by CNN in advance of the deposition.
Sondland's revealing testimony is a clear break with Trump over Giuliani — he said he was "disappointed" that Trump wouldn't commit to a meeting sought by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky until they spoke with Giuliani, who was pursuing an investigation into Biden, a potential political rival in Trump's reelection campaign. And the ambassador's testimony showcases how Trump put on hold an effort to strengthen relations with Ukraine until top US officials were in contact with his personal attorney.
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Who's the next idiot who's going to claim, "No quid pro quo?"

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2 hours ago, Fryfan said:

"Based on the President's direction, we were faced with a choice: We could abandon the goal of a White House meeting for President Zelensky, which we all believed was crucial to strengthening U.S.-Ukrainian ties and furthering long-held U.S. foreign policy goals in the region; or we could do as President Trump directed and talk to Mr. Giuliani to address the President's concerns," Sondland will testify.

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Impeachment is a slam dunk.  The question that remains is will the senate do its job - and its likely they wont.

 

 

As it was pointed out by Ari on MSNBC. They already have enough evidence to impeach trump. What they are doing now is making a foolproof case of other potential crimes not only against trump but his entire cabinet. 

Including a mountain of Obstruction of Congress/Justice cases.

It’s pretty clear their goal is to make a case so powerful against trump and his allies. The senate has no choice but to remove or be complicit themselves. 

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