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how dare you accuse trump of doing the things he's openly admitted to doing! for shame sir!

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GOP officials can slam the table and yell real loud defending trump and defy reality and there’s no consequences. 

that’s the true/scary/sad part in all this. 

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9 hours ago, retired said:

Quote of the day.....

"Hearsay is better than Direct Testimony" now I like that :)

It’s not hearsay but of course you buy into the Republican line of thinking. Aid was held up, the president requested a political favor for aid. The White House at every level admitted it. Trump admitted it. The only hearsay yesterday was the entire line of questioning by the republicans.

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3 hours ago, ImaginaryKev said:

These clowns are denying reality. We're fighting a legion of Ecats

Remember it’s okay when it’s quid pro qua but a crime when it’s quid pro quer.  
 

 

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It shows just what we are dealing with when the GOP members are attacking the whistle blower for pointing these things out, as opposed to defending the actions themselves which have proven to be true.

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I DON’T KNOW WHO TO BELIEVE IN THIS IMPEACHMENT HEARING

 

This impeachment is so confusing. Both sides are making contradictory claims and it’s almost impossible to know who to trust.

On the one hand, you have George Kent, a career Foreign Service officer whose entire family served in the armed forces, including an uncle who was at Pearl Harbor and survived the Bataan Death March, and on the other hand, you have a bone spurs draft dodger whose dad got arrested at a KKK riot.

There’s this fellow Bill Taylor who served as a Captain and company commander in Vietnam and who was awarded a Bronze Star, but then again, Donald Trump’s first wife Ivana and numerous other women have said that he sexually assaulted them.

If only American politics weren’t so partisan, I might be able to make sense of it all, but I can’t.

At the hearing, I saw two serious, professional men who both served under Republican and Democrat administrations. Yet just last week, President Trump was ordered to pay two million dollars for using charity funds to pay off his business debts and promote himself. How can a voter like me be expected to know who is more credible?

These men testified under oath that the president tried to withhold military aid to a crucial ally unless the Ukranian president made a phony and defamatory speech about Joe Biden, and I admit that does sound slightly damning. At the same time, there’s a white supremacist working closely with Donald Trump who orchestrated the immigration policy which separated thousands of children, including babies, from their parents. Politics are so complicated!

What sounds more believable? That career diplomats with everything to lose would make up a story implicating the most powerful man in America? Or that the president’s butt-dialling, criminal-loving lawyer was involved in something nefarious? I wish this would be easier!

I’m no political scientist, but it seems to me that a man who has told 13,435 lies and has equated Nazis with people protesting Nazis, and who publicly stated he’d date his own daughter, and who tried and failed to buy Greenland is at least as honest as the many people, both Republican and Democrat, who have testified against him in this impeachment hearing.

You know, everyone keeps repeating this story about Ben Franklin over and over again  —  you know the one  —  about how in 1787, as the Constitution was adopted, Americans gathered on the steps of Independence Hall. When they saw Franklin, they asked, ‘What do we have, a republic or a monarchy?’ and Franklin replied, ‘A republic, if you can keep it.’

But what did Ben Franklin even mean by that? Was he trying to say that a Democracy is only as strong as its institutions and that if the people in power become nakedly corrupt and are not checked, that Democracy becomes a hollow pretense that’s no better than a despotic monarchy? Or did he mean that the newly founded nation was a banana republic?

Someone help me! I’m utterly baffled! How will we ever get to the bottom of these impeachment hearings? I fear that America will be lost amidst the fog of uncertainty, destined to wander in the wilderness of chaos for a very long time indeed. A very, very long time.

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saw where schiff claims he has no idea who the whistleblower is

its been all over the news as to who it was

schiff is lying...he is just a low life rodent

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Taylor & Kent are butt hurt because Trump saw them as lightweight obama leftovers and looped them out

they dont have an America First agenda, they have the Obama agenda, that puts foreign countries ahead of the US...

very obvious to see 

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6 minutes ago, bull123 said:

saw where schiff claims he has no idea who the whistleblower is

its been all over the news as to who it was

schiff is lying...he is just a low life rodent

How hard is it to get it through your thick skull that’s simply playing to trump?

How hard is it to get it through your thick skull Schiff doesn’t know who the whistleblower is? That his STAFF, LAWYERS and the LAWYERS of the whistleblower are the ones been in contact? 

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2 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

How hard is it to get it through your thick skull that’s simply playing to trump?

How hard is it to get it through your thick skull Schiff doesn’t know who the whistleblower is? That his STAFF, LAWYERS and the LAWYERS of the whistleblower are the ones been in contact? 

not buying that for a millisecond....schiff is lying big time

 

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20 minutes ago, bull123 said:

not buying that for a millisecond....schiff is lying big time

 

This been reported on numerous times. His office deferred the complaint to the inspector general. 

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1 hour ago, bull123 said:

Taylor & Kent are butt hurt because Trump saw them as lightweight obama leftovers and looped them out

they dont have an America First agenda, they have the Obama agenda, that puts foreign countries ahead of the US...

very obvious to see 

This is actually hilarious that you're either so stupid that you believe this or that you're a big enough troll to try and make us think you do...

LOL

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Im sorry - why does it matter if schiff and the whistle blower were dating? 

 

Testomony and documents make it irrelevant.  Who care about this?

 

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