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Why a trade up is needed even if it requires a future first

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Look 

It really looks like Kemba is staying.  He just loves it here.

We arent moving any big contracts.  No one is touching Batum, Biz, etc.    And we are going to be stuck with them this year and atleast next with Batum.  Sucks but its the truth 

At 12, in this draft, we aren't going to bring anyone to truely move the needle.  Not Hachimura, not Clarke, etc.  They will be nice role players, but we need more than that.

 

As long as Kemba is here, this team will be stuck in purgatory.  He is good enough to single handedly have us in contention for the last seed.   We also know that MJ isnt going to tank

We NEED to get a guy with Star potential.  A guy to be a sidekick to Kemba while we are handcuffed to these contracts

 

 

Trading a future 1st for Coby White or Reddish will be well worth it.  IF the guy flops, we just gave up a pick thatll end up being a 12th-14th pick for a guy with huge upside.  If the guy comes right in like people expect.  We get over the hump into the playoffs as the last seed (hey atleast its something).  When we finally shed these contrants and open the cap, we will be a much more intriguing for FAs with Kemba and a young stud vs playing this yearly Kemba and the avg role players.

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It is not worth trading up unless for the top 4-7 pick for a Garland, Culver or Hunter. And I dont see the Cavs, Suns or Bulls trading down. So that means we’ll have to trade up to 4. I dont see Pelicans wanting anything we have. 

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5 hours ago, pennywise said:

It is not worth trading up unless for the top 4-7 pick for a Garland, Culver or Hunter. And I dont see the Cavs, Suns or Bulls trading down. So that means we’ll have to trade up to 4. I dont see Pelicans wanting anything we have. 

Culver- maybe, Just his shot scares me

Garland- no, he's a small PG, and wouldn't compliment Kemba 

Hunter- yes and no.  Would be worth the trade up, but we need someone who can help handle the ball to

 

Coby White is a scorer, has that it factor, great athlete, with ability to play the SG and PG with star potential

Reddish and Sekou- same thing, all can handle it, shoot it, with star potential who could be Kemba's sidekick 

 

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This team just can’t give up future 1sts. We will be right back in the lottery next year. Can’t give up a shot at a top pick just to move up a few spots. We can’t get up to 5-7 which is where Coby will go. 

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2 hours ago, Wanderlai said:

This team just can’t give up future 1sts. We will be right back in the lottery next year. Can’t give up a shot at a top pick just to move up a few spots. We can’t get up to 5-7 which is where Coby will go. 

Problem is

As long as this team has Kemba, that future 1st is going to be a 12-14th.

Giving that up to actually land a potential Stud/Kemba Sidekick is worth it.  

When you just keep landing potential role players from where we draft, your not going ti get anywhere.  And we cant afford to sign someone to help.  So only way to to it is throw away that future shot at a roleplayer, and itll be worth it.

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12 minutes ago, ncfan said:

Problem is

As long as this team has Kemba, that future 1st is going to be a 12-14th.

Giving that up to actually land a potential Stud/Kemba Sidekick is worth it.  

When you just keep landing potential role players from where we draft, your not going ti get anywhere.  And we cant afford to sign someone to help.  So only way to to it is throw away that future shot at a roleplayer, and itll be worth it.

I agree on the being stuck to late lottery picks is a dead end. That’s why I’d rather Kemba move on. We just don’t have anywhere near the foundation of assets/talent to be good enough to make a difference with him. Sign him to a max-near max deal and we are still stuck in purgatory. If you want to be satisfied with squeezing into the 8th seed and getting swept out then yeah sign him but I don’t want that. All the small market teams either hit on a franchise player through the draft or had enough assets to make a big trade. Kemba isn’t a franchise changing player and we have zero assets. Not one guy after Zion in this draft is a sure fire can’t miss player. Everyone else is a gamble. For sure we won’t get that 2nd star in the 8-12 range. There is zero history that says Charlotte can find those hidden gems. 

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We need to overhaul the franchise and unfortunately that means we shouldn't resign Kemba. We have done nothing with him. We won't do anything when he is killing our payroll either. Just move on and start over.... again

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Disagree, resign Kemba and take the best player available tonight.  In a few years we will be in good shape.

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Just now, Shocker said:

Disagree, resign Kemba and take the best player available tonight.  In a few years we will be in good shape.

At which point Kemba will probably be a shell of himself after having to carry this dumpster fire. I love Kemba, I wish he would go somewhere that cares about winning. 

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5 hours ago, ncfan said:

Culver- maybe, Just his shot scares me

Garland- no, he's a small PG, and wouldn't compliment Kemba 

Hunter- yes and no.  Would be worth the trade up, but we need someone who can help handle the ball to

 

Coby White is a scorer, has that it factor, great athlete, with ability to play the SG and PG with star potential

Reddish and Sekou- same thing, all can handle it, shoot it, with star potential who could be Kemba's sidekick 

 

Culver is the 4th best player in this class. Could really make a case for him at 3. 

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For Hornets fans, the draft is like Christmas but for Jehovah's Witness.  Christmas is coming, but you aren't getting poo. 

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Heels fan here and gotta say Coby White is being overrated a little here.  He certainly got better last year but he is a shaky ball handler and good shooter but not great.  I like Garland more.

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2 hours ago, Shocker said:

Heels fan here and gotta say Coby White is being overrated a little here.  He certainly got better last year but he is a shaky ball handler and good shooter but not great.  I like Garland more.

 Maybe....but he has size...wore down as season progressed

never got to the rim the way berry did...streaky shooter

 But he has a huge upside...and I mean huge...guy could be an all star In a few yrs...if I’m Phoenix I’d take him in a heartbeat

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