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Would McCown be a better option than what we have now?

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Disagree, Allen can win you a game or two. That's about all McCown can do at this point. 

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If Cam goes down I want our young guys to gain experience. I don’t think McCown is going to offer much at this point in his career.

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As much as I don't think Heinicke is an NFL talent, I think he might deserve #2 reps this week. Allen and Grier looked like straight trash against Buffalo. Maybe Heinicke would have too had he actually played against guys who are likely to be in their roster come the regular season. 

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9 minutes ago, mc52beast said:

Eagles signed Josh McCown, think it was around 2-3 million. Panthers could’ve easily signed him and had a veteran presence at back-up qb... is he a better option than what we have

https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2019/8/19/20811657/josh-mccown-eagles-quarterback-jets-things-to-know-philadelphia-alshon-jeffery-stats-highlights-nfl

Derek Anderson would be better than what we have now, and would've been last season. But the Panthers determined it was time to focus on development, likely in the Patriots model. Inexplicably, they've been able to turn back-up QB's into draft capital and the Panthers may be trying to go down that same road. The days of veteran back-ups may be behind us as teams seek to utilize more of their time spent on back-up QB's as development which can in turn be transformed into future draft picks.

Source: I have no source, but I could obviously write for ESPN

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2 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

If Cam goes down I want our young guys to gain experience. I don’t think McCown is going to offer much at this point in his career.

Yeah, if Cam's shoulder fails to hold up again we need to figure out what we currently have for the future and whether or not we need to try to sign a legit FA next off-season or draft a QB in the 1st (or swing a trade).

We're not making a SB run with Josh McCown.

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This team isn't going to the postseason without Cam Newton. Playing musical chairs with the backup QB position isn't going to change that.

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   It’s too late now. Signing a decent vet backup QB should have been done before the draft. We already wasted a quality pick on a QB that will probably never start a game without an injury. And if things go bad, we are probably taking one in the 1st next year anyhow. 

   

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3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

As much as I don't think Heinicke is an NFL talent, I think he might deserve #2 reps this week. Allen and Grier looked like straight trash against Buffalo. Maybe Heinicke would have too had he actually played against guys who are likely to be in their roster come the regular season. 

I really have no idea on Grier, but I’m more than willing to chalk up a bad game for Allen to just a bad game against a very good defense. Cam appeared to have a rough go (wasn’t it 6 straight incompletions?) in practice. We’ve at least seen Allen look more competent than Heinecke in the same game (Atlanta) and look better than any of our backups in recent years against NO. Based on those and a decent showing against the Bears, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.

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Unless you are the rare NFL team that miraculously has two NFL QB's on it's roster (I'm looking at you 2017 Eagles) then it doesn't matter a bit who your backup QB is.  The best you can hope for is that your backup can fill in for a few plays here and there.  A half.  Maybe a game or two.  After that, you're just plain sunk.

Past that, you might as well have some young guys and find out what they have or don't have.  There are NFL teams out there without a single NFL starting caliber QB on the roster.  We're lucky to have one.

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We don’t need a vet backup

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1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

As much as I don't think Heinicke is an NFL talent, I think he might deserve #2 reps this week. Allen and Grier looked like straight trash against Buffalo. Maybe Heinicke would have too had he actually played against guys who are likely to be in their roster come the regular season. 

Grier hasn’t outperformed anybody. In Spartanburg, or in the games. So this is actually not a bad idea. 

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You mean bring in a vet to sit back and help groom a young guy on roster in Allen while also being a capable backup?

 

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Drafting a guy who is a year older and similar upside as the guy already on roster instead of using the pick on someone at a different postition that could possibly come right in and help right away

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, TheRed said:

This team isn't going to the postseason without Cam Newton. Playing musical chairs with the backup QB position isn't going to change that.

Exactly.  I certainly don't feel as good as I was hoping to be with either Allen or Grier, but the reality hasn't changed that this season is going to hinge on how well Cam plays and how well his shoulder holds up (and I'm expecting a large correlation between those two)

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