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The 34 is a bit of a problem. You’re taking some of your best players and neutralizing their strengths. McCoy and Short are not natural fits for this. Kuechly is not a natural fit for this. 

I’m not saying I hate the idea. I think this becomes more of a situational look. Takes time to build a traditional 34. And there will be growing pains.

Edited by ellis

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Hmmm... I’m pretty sure someone around here said it would take multiple seasons before we would have a good 3-4 defense. You don’t go from a 4-3 to a 3-4 hybrid and expect everyone to become HOFers. This is why I expect Ron to keep his job no matter how bad we suck this year 

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9 hours ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Seemed we were in 4-3 a lot of last night. I mentally noted it during the game, but I dunno how true the observation was

We're still using a lot of 4-3. 

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Biggest problem i see on D is sloppy tackling. Too much arm tackling. Idk how times there was a tfl that turned into a 6 yard gain.

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Well, if we don’t run plenty of 3-4, we flushed the #16 overall pick in the draft down the toilet.

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11 hours ago, PantherPhann89 said:

3-4, 4-3 with the same coaching girls

Not sure you meant this, but you’re onto something.

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4 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

Well, if we don’t run plenty of 3-4, we flushed the #16 overall pick in the draft down the toilet.

Burns has looked good with his hand in the dirt too...

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11 minutes ago, La Pantera said:

Burns has looked good with his hand in the dirt too...

Yes, in the 2nd half of preseason games.

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13 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

Yes, in the 2nd half of preseason games.

First half too. Or do those not count???

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3 hours ago, tiger7_88 said:

Not sure you meant this, but you’re onto something.

Corrected: 

3-4, 4-3 with the same coaching getting the same results. I hope that we can get it together and perform in regular season but our dress rehearsal was garbage...

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16 hours ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

We have 3 pro bowl NT.  The issue is scheme.

The pro bowl season for Poe was 5 years ago. He has been pretty awful the last 3 seasons. I don't know what other pro bowl NTs you are referring to on our team.

The NT has to be a space eater and command double teams. Poe is only getting blocked by 1 lineman and getting pushed backwards 5 yards, many times into our LBs...

I wish we had prime Vince Wolfork or Pat Williams, but we don't...

Edited by PleaseCutStewart

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19 hours ago, ellis said:

The 34 is a bit of a problem. You’re taking some of your best players and neutralizing their strengths. McCoy and Short are not natural fits for this. Kuechly is not a natural fit for this. 

I’m not saying I hate the idea. I think this becomes more of a situational look. Takes time to build a traditional 34. And there will be growing pains.

What exactly is McCoys strength in a 4-3 that is a liability in a 3-4. The biggest transition is not linemen but linebacker. Are we running a 1 gap or 2 gap 3-4?  That determines the run fits.

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Let’s not forget had badly our 4-3 got gashed in running game LY

and LY we had no pressure 

thought our secondary was good Thursday 

shaq still out of position a lot and saw him got knocked backwards a few times 

new scheme...we will figure it out...too many good players on def

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