I agree about "some sense". Ive heard this about the Pats. They are the only team thats honest when they said " This is our final and best offer". Bill sets the amount he sees and that is it.PERIOD. If its 12 million and your want 12.1 million, they will walk away. I believe soon after he traded for Kyle Van Noy, gave up a 5th......... That was the replacement for Jones, a guy the lions drafted and couldnt get to play. Van Noy was still on an rookie and he is a beast. Now hes signed for what maybe the best deal in the NFL for a elite pass rusher.