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Cam derangement syndrome is a real thing

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2 hours ago, PhillyB said:

Rando at my bar was watching with me in the fourth quarter. Kyle Allen pulls a matrix move to escape the crashing end. We all pound the bar. Dude goes, without a trace of irony,

"I'm just saying, Cam Newton couldn't have done that"

Cam Newton made a fuging career out of doing that. Healthy Cam Newton ducks out of hits like that in his sleep and doesn't lose three fumbles because he is a tank with A-grade pocket awareness. He is an elite quarterback.

There is a positive correlation between people who say catastrophically stupid things like "cam newton couldn't have done that" and people who subjectively despise him for things like wearing a towel and dancing.

Cam Newton makes people deranged and it's going to be an unbelievable source of catharsis for me when he returns to take over the reins from Kyle Allen around thanksgivingish and leads this team to the playoffs 

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100% FACTS, Phil.  Tired of it man...  I'm pulling for Kyle like I'm pulling for all of our players to succeed, especially in Cam's absence so the team is in a good spot once he comes back healthy...  but there certainly are a ton of delusional idiots that have just been waiting for a chance to pounce on Cam.  I just still don't get it.  He is a former NFL MVP for a reason, and there isn't exactly a lot of those guys walking around...  the disrespect he gets is unreal.  And funny enough, the whole time I'm watching Kyle I keep thinking, "Cam never gets stripped like that," lol.

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2 hours ago, thebigcat said:

He loves using big-time words. It's a way of saying I'm smarter than you

At least he doesn't insult others vocabulary as a way of saying I'm proud of being dumber than you.

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25 minutes ago, Asurfaholic said:

blah blah blah racism blah blah.

 

its really getting old listening to these people try to lump everyone into the racist bag anytime someone says something they don't agree with. get a grip

if it wasn't so prevalent and out in the open as it is now, you probably wouldn't hear so many people pointing it out.

just saying.

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5 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

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100% FACTS, Phil.  Tired of it man...  I'm pulling for Kyle like I'm pulling for all of our players to succeed, especially in Cam's absence so the team is in a good spot once he comes back healthy...  but there certainly are a ton of delusional idiots that have just been waiting for a chance to pounce on Cam.  I just still don't get it.  He is a former NFL MVP for a reason, and there isn't exactly a lot of those guys walking around...  the disrespect he gets is unreal.  And funny enough, the whole time I'm watching Kyle I keep thinking, "Cam never gets stripped like that," lol.

Observation bias. We tend to take note of things that confirm our beliefs and ignore or dismiss things that run counter to them. It's hard as fug to be really objective about anything.

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50 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

There is another factor that could be in play--this new offense needs someone who can throw screens and get the ball out quickly to speedy, shifty players.  When we brought Cam in, we were running the vertical routes, where Cam could drop back, send the WRs deep, drag the TE, and run for daylight.  The QB in this offense is a different animal--we still only have 5-6 games of healthy Cam in this system, but is Allen's skill set a better fit? 

I do not know, but there are many factors people are not considering because they want to make it about loyalty and race---non issues.  I see both sides, and the bottom line: who gives the team the best chance to win? 

thank you sir, well said.

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2 hours ago, PhillyB said:

Rando at my bar was watching with me in the fourth quarter. Kyle Allen pulls a matrix move to escape the crashing end. We all pound the bar. Dude goes, without a trace of irony,

"I'm just saying, Cam Newton couldn't have done that"

Cam Newton made a fuging career out of doing that. Healthy Cam Newton ducks out of hits like that in his sleep and doesn't lose three fumbles because he is a tank with A-grade pocket awareness. He is an elite quarterback.

There is a positive correlation between people who say catastrophically stupid things like "cam newton couldn't have done that" and people who subjectively despise him for things like wearing a towel and dancing.

Cam Newton makes people deranged and it's going to be an unbelievable source of catharsis for me when he returns to take over the reins from Kyle Allen around thanksgivingish and leads this team to the playoffs 

 Who's deranged? Fans who're obsessed with a QB who's lost his last 9 games, or fans who are excited for a QB who has won his last 3?

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8 minutes ago, Seoul_Panther said:

 Who's deranged? Fans who're obsessed with a QB who's lost his last 9 games, or fans who are excited for a QB who has won his last 3?

how about fans who are so delusional and who have been looking for a reason to sweep cam out of here since he got here saying that allen is doing things (like being evasive and making a big play) that cam never did. obviously, that is a load of horse poo.

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1 hour ago, CatTower said:

 

Cam 2015 QB rating = 99.4

The racists of this forum are too obvious.  Any person who says something negative about Cam is attacked.

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Cam was 0-9 in his last nine starts

thats the only stat that matters

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1 hour ago, TheRumGone said:

It’s tough because I understand the economics behind it also. We get a cheaper deal qb we can do a ton to surround him. But you’re gambling. You’re also gambling on Cam’s health. 
 

that’s why I’m making no concrete opinion until after the season unfolds and we see how Kyle plays as well as if Cam comes back from injury.

Exactly.  Some people are going full throttle on the emotions, but this is a business. My concerns about Cam:

1. He was not given the coaching he needed early on. 

2. He saved RR's job a few times.  RR knowingly played him hurt.  That makes injuries worse because they try to heal and cannot.  I am convinced that Cam's second surgery (scar tissue etc) was because RR started him knowing he was hurt. Re-injuring a healing joint injury causes scar tissue to form on top of scar tissue.  Then the surgery has scar tissue.  Etc.

3.  Combine 1 and 2, and he was forced to run and never really developed into that pure pocket passer.  The long ball (your point was solid) is part of his game--if you take that away, the accuracy issues become more noticeable because they are loading the box.  Basically, our coaches may have hurt his long-term success. 

Of course, we all have to guess based on what we see.  I just do not see Cam getting better--I see the potential for a rather substantial decline,. 

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1 hour ago, Everfrost said:

Yeah cam could get away from that with ease. But he would have overthrown or ran short of the 1st.

Cam literally did that against philly last year and it was a better pass than Allen’s, which was a c-hair from being too short to catch

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All people do now on this board is attack each other.

I'm old enough to remember when you got banned for personal attacks on here. 

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6 minutes ago, Xtreme said:

All people do now on this board is attack each other.

I'm old enough to remember when you got banned for personal attacks on here. 

Things were actually halfway alright there for a time in the Panthers section.

But once it was clear Cam couldn't go health wise and Allen won his first start the mouth breathers started piling in. Instead of rejoicing a gritty team win a number of fans see it as an opportunity to pit players against each other and diminish someone for being injured. That's ugliness that really only stems from one place.

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30 minutes ago, bull123 said:

Cam was 0-9 in his last nine starts

thats the only stat that matters

your IQ is somewhere between 0-9 incidentally 

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36 minutes ago, rayzor said:

how about fans who are so delusional and who have been looking for a reason to sweep cam out of here since he got here saying that allen is doing things (like being evasive and making a big play) that cam never did. obviously, that is a load of horse poo.

I agree it's crazy to say that Cam has never been evasive  I didn't say it. Again though we have to suffer the Cam zealots being triggered by random bar flies because they are insecure about his future 

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16 minutes ago, Xtreme said:

All people do now on this board is attack each other.

I'm old enough to remember when you got banned for personal attacks on here. 

Only personal attacks allowed are those who attack anyone that says Cam lost 9 in a row and is now happy about winning

cam supporters don’t care if we win, only care that Cam is supported

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