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3 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Honestly, the coaching staff is getting some seriously petty criticism while they are performing lights out.

The gold standard for how the coaching is going can be boiled down to this:

1. Is the team winning? Well, 5 wins in the last six games is just about as good as you can get without being perfect.

2. Is the team overcoming injuries? Hell, yeah. Beyond the loss of a once in a generation talent at QB, we've had multiple injuries on the O-line, seen our star DT go to injured reserve, both of our rookie standout pass rushers suffer injuries, have Bruce Irvin have to sit out multiple games at the start of the season,  a starting DB fighting a hamstring issue, our MLB lose his mother unexpectedly and our starting DE and team stalwart lose his brother to gun violence. Heck, even our kicker is out on IR and we had to put into play a rookie kicker as a stand in. And we've still won five out of eight so far.

3. Has the team bounced back from losses and snagged a win the following week. Yep, except for week two. 

4.  Is the team committing lots of penalties, a sure sign of poor coaching? No, we're one of the best in the league.

Our coaching staff, and management, are literally keeping a racecar that is falling apart running with the leaders of the pack, mechanics literally duct taped to the outside of the car working madly as it goes through the turns. They haven't pulled off a miracle yet, but to criticize their efforts now is really petty and disingenuous.

And to boil it all down to whether it's one QB or another helming the ship is just dickery. 

Talk of draft position, while we're still in the hunt, is foolhardy, too. We're picking 32nd until someone proves otherwise.

Never said anything about draft position but without a QB it is vital regardless. I dont see it as mutually exclusive always. I agreed with it last year because of the 7 game poopshow. This year, they are reaping what they sowed and that is reason enough to cut bait and protect our selves from. All of those good things and we are yet again not dominate but mediocre +. I dont share your entusiasm for the outlook but football is still better than no football.

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The nature of fan boards is there is always an over-reaction to every development, good or bad. I used to enjoy the game-day threads while watching the Panthers play but rarely check in more than once or twice anymore. Every time there is a dropped pass or 3rd down conversion not made you get the "Game's over" posts. When the other team scores, "Season's over". It would be funny if it wasn't so sad how many people are consumed with negativity about our team.

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15 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

You should keep listening, you could learn something. 

Winning five out of six is bad?

How many of those were against good teams?

We're coming up on the real teeth of our schedule. If we can win against some of the better teams, then I'll take it more seriously.

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37 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

You should keep listening, you could learn something. 

Winning five out of six is bad?

We haven't beat anyone that impressive.   Houston is the only team with a winning record I beileve.    We got dismembered by the 49ers.    Let's see if we beat Green Bay and Saints.    The games we did win, most of them, Rivera started letting teams come back in typical fashion.    He doesn't have back to back winning seasons.     He's firmly in the "mediocre" coach category.     He'd probably be less than that if he didn't have generational talents fall into his lap in Cam and Luke.   

 

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1 hour ago, Khyber53 said:

Honestly, the coaching staff is getting some seriously petty criticism while they are performing lights out.

The gold standard for how the coaching is going can be boiled down to this:

1. Is the team winning? Well, 5 wins in the last six games is just about as good as you can get without being perfect.

2. Is the team overcoming injuries? Hell, yeah. Beyond the loss of a once in a generation talent at QB, we've had multiple injuries on the O-line, seen our star DT go to injured reserve, both of our rookie standout pass rushers suffer injuries, have Bruce Irvin have to sit out multiple games at the start of the season,  a starting DB fighting a hamstring issue, our MLB lose his mother unexpectedly and our starting DE and team stalwart lose his brother to gun violence. Heck, even our kicker is out on IR and we had to put into play a rookie kicker as a stand in. And we've still won five out of eight so far.

3. Has the team bounced back from losses and snagged a win the following week. Yep, except for week two. 

4.  Is the team committing lots of penalties, a sure sign of poor coaching? No, we're one of the best in the league.

Our coaching staff, and management, are literally keeping a racecar that is falling apart running with the leaders of the pack, mechanics literally duct taped to the outside of the car working madly as it goes through the turns. They haven't pulled off a miracle yet, but to criticize their efforts now is really petty and disingenuous.

And to boil it all down to whether it's one QB or another helming the ship is just dickery. 

Talk of draft position, while we're still in the hunt, is foolhardy, too. We're picking 32nd until someone proves otherwise.

Some people refuse to look at the bright side thus Rivera is theeee absolute worst coach in the NFL, a guy that can't be trusted to take a team to the Superbowl, Norv/Scot are straight Shula and can't be trusted to develope ANY QB, Cam is inaccurate and is only a running QB with a broke foot that will never heal etc. etc. etc.

Teh huddle

 

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45 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

How many of those were against good teams?

We're coming up on the real teeth of our schedule. If we can win against some of the better teams, then I'll take it more seriously.

They are the teams on our schedule. We can't just roll up to Foxboro and call the Patriots out on a Tuesday for a game.

Each of the teams we've beaten had a better record before they met us than after the played us. We barely lost to the Rams with a hobbled Cam Newton, and while they were 0-0 at the time, they were the defending NFC champs. We lost to the Bucs when they were 0-1, dropping a game to the 49ers.

Then we start winning: The Cardinals were 0-1-1 before we (0-2) beat them. Marginally better record, but better than ours. 

The Texans were 2-1 (with a close loss to a Brees-led Saints in week one) to our 1-2 record.

The Jaguars were 2-2 tied with us when we beat them.

The Bucs were 2-3 when we played them at 3-2, but had beaten us handily already. 

Then we got shellacked by an undefeated 49ers team. We drop to 4-3.

The Titans were 4-4 when we at 4-3 beat them.

Each team we've beaten was at or better than .500 when we played, with the exception of the Bucs, who had already beaten us. And we haven't lost to a team who had a worse record than we did.

You can feel however you want to about it, but we've played who they've sent to us and haven't given up on the season. Please see teams like Cleveland, Miami, the NYJets, the Bengals, Redskins, none of whom we have played yet. Heck, we've just about swept the entire AFC South and are demonstrably better than 75% of the AFC. Heck, if we were in the AFC, we'd be only one game out of leading three out of four divisions. And had we had the cupcake party the Patriots have been enjoying we'd probably run the table there, too.

 

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37 minutes ago, Zaximus said:

We haven't beat anyone that impressive.   Houston is the only team with a winning record I beileve.    We got dismembered by the 49ers.    Let's see if we beat Green Bay and Saints.    The games we did win, most of them, Rivera started letting teams come back in typical fashion.    He doesn't have back to back winning seasons.     He's firmly in the "mediocre" coach category.     He'd probably be less than that if he didn't have generational talents fall into his lap in Cam and Luke.   

 

See above, saves me time and you won't read it anyway.

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29 minutes ago, Zaximus said:

We haven't beat anyone that impressive.   Houston is the only team with a winning record I beileve.    We got dismembered by the 49ers.    Let's see if we beat Green Bay and Saints.    The games we did win, most of them, Rivera started letting teams come back in typical fashion.    He doesn't have back to back winning seasons.     He's firmly in the "mediocre" coach category.     He'd probably be less than that if he didn't have generational talents fall into his lap in Cam and Luke.   

 

Yeah, Houston is beasting now but it's how we beat them. The Panthers thumped that team.

The Titans game showed toughness, they came back and took it to a very good defense.

Most teams having lost what we have would be losing terribly. This machine keeps rolling. It's a credit to Marty, Ron and Tepper. As an organization they prepared for Cam sitting. They loaded up the defense to help carry the load for the long haul. They even brought Horton back to shore up the line.

I wouldn't listen to the huddle. Imagine the misery that Dolphin and even Bears fans feel. In a division with Brees and Payton the Panthers won three NFCS titles back to back to back.

Football isn't easy. Brees and the Saints have been a handful. Atlanta pops their heads up every couple years. Not an easy division. Everybody knows that. Panthers fans have been spoiled by relative success.

 

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Doesn't like poo threads so goes to start a poo thread about poo threads creating more poo talk he doesn't like.

Makes sense.

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1 minute ago, rayzor said:

Doesn't like poo threads so goes to start a poo thread about poo threads creating more poo talk he doesn't like.

Makes sense.

Just like the dummy who started the Cam thread about having no more Cam threads. 
 

Stupidity at its finest 

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3 hours ago, tiger7_88 said:

Keep shoving that head deeper in the sand, avoiding real thoughts and real emotions that really exist in the real world, brah.

always got to remember though....there is the internet and then there is the real world.   The world is a much better place than the internet would lead you to believe. 

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1 hour ago, rayzor said:

Doesn't like poo threads so goes to start a poo thread about poo threads creating more poo talk he doesn't like.

Makes sense.

You crawled out of the Tinderbox for that? Weaksauce man. 

In the end, I'm just saying folks ought to take a moment to enjoy the season and cheer for a team that is punching its way out of the corner. It's like a group of people that would walk out on the movie Rocky at the halfway mark saying the dude's just a punch drunk loser. 

 

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2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

How many of those were against good teams?

We're coming up on the real teeth of our schedule. If we can win against some of the better teams, then I'll take it more seriously.

Sometimes the mark of a good team is winning games we should win as much as it is beating teams with superior talent. If we can beat teams like the Saints or Seattle at home we could slide into the playoffs as a wildcard. It isn't likely we can expect Allen to go into Green Bay or the Superdome and win on the road. I am hopeful but don't expect it.

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