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About this Cam Newton leaving talk...

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4 minutes ago, MechaZain said:

Who’s giving him a multi-year deal if the Panthers, who know his health better than anyone, aren’t willing to?

Perhaps a team that feels they are a QB away from competing.

None of us believe that is true of the Panthers.

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https://www.healthline.com/health/lisfranc-fracture

Treatment for a Lisfranc fracture will also depend on the severity of the injury.

A mild Lisfranc fracture can often be treated the same way as a simple sprain — with ice, rest, and by elevating the injured foot. Your doctor may recommend you use crutches to help with the pain that can occur upon walking or standing.

More severe injuries might require you to wear a cast for up to six weeks. Your doctor will continue to check up on you, taking X-rays to monitor the improvement of the injury and to see if surgery is required. Surgery is how the most severe Lisfranc injuries are treated.

You may undergo a surgical procedure called internal fixation, where the bones of your foot are repositioned and held in place with screws or plates in order to heal.

Alternatively, you may undergo a fusion treatment. This surgery is less common than internal fixation. In this procedure, the cartilage around your joints is removed before the screws are added. The goal of this procedure is to fuse the bones in your midfoot together to create a single bone. If you do need to have surgery, you will most likely not be able to bear weight on the injured foot for a period of six to eight weeks afterward while wearing a cast.

Your doctor may recommend that you have the pins and plates removed about four to six months after your surgery.

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Examples:

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No weight bearing on the surgically repaired foot for anywhere from 6-12 weeks following surgery. Rehab, weight bearing and rebuilding muscle another 6-12 weeks.

Get out a calendar, folks. It's a 3-6 month recovery and the Panthers are going to be in a position where they have to make a decision on his health/worth before anyone will even know if he can play, run, throw. His surgery is this week. Draft is April 23-25, 2020, 19 weeks from now.

"Great, Cam's out of his cast and beginning to walk without a cane. Let's go ahead and give him $20M. Hopefully, he'll be trying to throw a football in a couple weeks."

In my opinion, anyone who would give a QB $20M without knowing if he can plant that foot and throw or plant the foot and run.....

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On 12/9/2019 at 1:57 PM, Anybodyhome said:

In my opinion, anyone who would give a QB $20M without knowing if he can plant that foot and throw or plant the foot and run.....

Risk/Reward. It's already accounted for on the books for next year. The risk is Cam can't play and you've got to go with Grier or Allen or somebody else you bring in. Worst case outcome is a bad season and a top 10 draft pick. The possible reward is an upper tier starting QB (based on early 2018, not 2015) for well below market rate. Best outcome: good season, a shot at the playoffs, depending on other factors (coach hired, other players health, performance of defense).

For me, the rewards outweighs the risk in this analysis. Now, if Cam says he won't play without an extension, that changes the analysis. 

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On 12/9/2019 at 12:57 PM, Anybodyhome said:

https://www.healthline.com/health/lisfranc-fracture

Treatment for a Lisfranc fracture will also depend on the severity of the injury.

A mild Lisfranc fracture can often be treated the same way as a simple sprain — with ice, rest, and by elevating the injured foot. Your doctor may recommend you use crutches to help with the pain that can occur upon walking or standing.

More severe injuries might require you to wear a cast for up to six weeks. Your doctor will continue to check up on you, taking X-rays to monitor the improvement of the injury and to see if surgery is required. Surgery is how the most severe Lisfranc injuries are treated.

You may undergo a surgical procedure called internal fixation, where the bones of your foot are repositioned and held in place with screws or plates in order to heal.

Alternatively, you may undergo a fusion treatment. This surgery is less common than internal fixation. In this procedure, the cartilage around your joints is removed before the screws are added. The goal of this procedure is to fuse the bones in your midfoot together to create a single bone. If you do need to have surgery, you will most likely not be able to bear weight on the injured foot for a period of six to eight weeks afterward while wearing a cast.

Your doctor may recommend that you have the pins and plates removed about four to six months after your surgery.

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Examples:

image.png.e3a57426acafaafe1f63757400ab9041.png

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No weight bearing on the surgically repaired foot for anywhere from 6-12 weeks following surgery. Rehab, weight bearing and rebuilding muscle another 6-12 weeks.

Get out a calendar, folks. It's a 3-6 month recovery and the Panthers are going to be in a position where they have to make a decision on his health/worth before anyone will even know if he can play, run, throw. His surgery is this week. Draft is April 23-25, 2020, 19 weeks from now.

"Great, Cam's out of his cast and beginning to walk without a cane. Let's go ahead and give him $20M. Hopefully, he'll be trying to throw a football in a couple weeks."

In my opinion, anyone who would give a QB $20M without knowing if he can plant that foot and throw or plant the foot and run.....

Unfortunately, common sense is frowned upon and trolled here. "You are just a cam hating troll with an agenda" 

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3 hours ago, Lucian said:

Unfortunately, common sense is frowned upon and trolled here. "You are just a cam hating troll with an agenda" 

He presented facts about the surgery you are just throwing your opinions out as fact two totally different things 

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On 12/7/2019 at 11:08 AM, Mr. Scot said:

All it takes is for one other team to be willing to offer him more than what we're paying him or more than one year.

Keeping in mind we had a report that at least 10 teams were willing to trade for him despite his injury status earlier this year, are you absolutely positive there's not a single one out of 31 other teams that would be willing to do that?

hes still under contract, teams cant offer him anything. those 10 teams were willing to trade for him when the idea that he would be ready to play by week 8. instead his injury didnt heal right and he ended up having to be IR'd and have surgery. Cam staying makes more sense then him leaving.  

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On 12/9/2019 at 1:57 PM, Anybodyhome said:

https://www.healthline.com/health/lisfranc-fracture

Treatment for a Lisfranc fracture will also depend on the severity of the injury.

A mild Lisfranc fracture can often be treated the same way as a simple sprain — with ice, rest, and by elevating the injured foot. Your doctor may recommend you use crutches to help with the pain that can occur upon walking or standing.

More severe injuries might require you to wear a cast for up to six weeks. Your doctor will continue to check up on you, taking X-rays to monitor the improvement of the injury and to see if surgery is required. Surgery is how the most severe Lisfranc injuries are treated.

You may undergo a surgical procedure called internal fixation, where the bones of your foot are repositioned and held in place with screws or plates in order to heal.

Alternatively, you may undergo a fusion treatment. This surgery is less common than internal fixation. In this procedure, the cartilage around your joints is removed before the screws are added. The goal of this procedure is to fuse the bones in your midfoot together to create a single bone. If you do need to have surgery, you will most likely not be able to bear weight on the injured foot for a period of six to eight weeks afterward while wearing a cast.

Your doctor may recommend that you have the pins and plates removed about four to six months after your surgery.

----------------------------------------------------

Examples:

image.png.e3a57426acafaafe1f63757400ab9041.png

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

No weight bearing on the surgically repaired foot for anywhere from 6-12 weeks following surgery. Rehab, weight bearing and rebuilding muscle another 6-12 weeks.

Get out a calendar, folks. It's a 3-6 month recovery and the Panthers are going to be in a position where they have to make a decision on his health/worth before anyone will even know if he can play, run, throw. His surgery is this week. Draft is April 23-25, 2020, 19 weeks from now.

"Great, Cam's out of his cast and beginning to walk without a cane. Let's go ahead and give him $20M. Hopefully, he'll be trying to throw a football in a couple weeks."

In my opinion, anyone who would give a QB $20M without knowing if he can plant that foot and throw or plant the foot and run.....

He’s already on the books for next year and we just gave Shaq Thompson what $13mil - $19mil for Cam Newton is chump change. 

it ain’t happening. Newton is a Panther in 2020.

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3 hours ago, mjligon said:

He’s already on the books for next year and we just gave Shaq Thompson what $13mil - $19mil for Cam Newton is chump change. 

it ain’t happening. Newton is a Panther in 2020.

Sure, why not pay a guy nobody knows can run or throw? Why pass on a QB in the draft, who the team would know is healthy, when the team has, at best, damaged goods and past his prime QB already on the roster?

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