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Some guy who sounds like Pep - Cam is Irreplaceable

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5 minutes ago, Lucian said:

Im done with this thread. Ive pointed out a dozen reasons why cam isnt coming back. Listen or dont, i dont care. Bump thos thread nexr year and eat crow. Most of yoy probably wont be here thouhh because you will follow cam to his new team. Our fan base will be better for it. We are rebudi g for the future, and that includes the qb position. Accept it.

Actually you have pointed nothing out, just given uninformed opinions

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12 minutes ago, SouthernFried said:

Long time reader and first time poster here. I've probably been meandering on this forum for upwards of 10 years now. It's far more toxic around here than it has ever been. It's all politics to these people. They think you have some 'agenda' going because they assume you want Cam gone because he's black. That's literally what you are witnessing here. Lol. It's utter nonsense and its honestly pathetic. The writing is on the wall for Cam. HUGE Cam Newton fan over the years but his time here is done. The homers just can't take off their glasses and see it. Outside of 3-4 solid seasons of his, the rest have been average or well-below average. With the injuries adding up and his age on top of that, his best days are behind him. If we do in fact bring him back next year, I can guarantee you it won't be pretty. As far as Kyle Allen goes? Yeah, he's no long-term answer either. He had the talking heads going for his first month of play, but he's playing awful ball right now. This dude fails to protect the football. I'm not opposed to seeing what Will Grier can do at this point. 

Welcome.  I was here reading since 2003 season.  My position is we need OL first as that is the cause of everything going wrong in last 2 years. Allen has taken too many beatings and that affected his decision making, would like a look at him post OL rebuild.  Note his stats 1st half of games vs 2nd half of same game.

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1 hour ago, mjligon said:

Imagine wanting to see what Kyle Allen can do behind a rebuilt OL and in the same breath wanting to cut ties with Cam Newton rather than seeing what he can do behind that same OL.

Ridiculous.

Imagine making three different alts to all say the same thing

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12 hours ago, TheWiz said:

He never says he's Pep, but then again never says that he's not.

https://twitter.com/Keeppounding_TV/status/1204166780207468549?s=20

If it is, this speaks volumes. Sound Off.

So we listen to defensive ends on QB decisions? Sounds about right. This will come down to the day before the 2020 league year starts... Tepper will ask the team doctor will Cam be 100% healthy by July? If the answer is no 98% likely, he will be traded...  

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Let Cam play the contract out and then proceed wisely from there. If he is back to health, a new contract can be negotiated along the way. If not, then Cam can either move on or retire as needed and we all feel like we gave it our best shot.

 

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2 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Let Cam play the contract out and then proceed wisely from there. If he is back to health, a new contract can be negotiated along the way. If not, then Cam can either move on or retire as needed and we all feel like we gave it our best shot.

 

Only way Cam agrees to that contract is if doctor gives terrible news... we’d be forced to pay it anyway. 

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23 minutes ago, mjligon said:

And taking the time to quote and pie yourself

It's also funny seeing stevo the clown still talking crap after he threw all his support behind Kyle Allen and said cam is done and nothing could be finer... What a joke he is

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36 minutes ago, Pantherzack179812 said:

Only way Cam agrees to that contract is if doctor gives terrible news... we’d be forced to pay it anyway. 

Well, he is already under contract for next season at what is a remarkably reasonable price if he is capable of playing. If he makes it through the season and can continue playing, then a contract can be negotiated after that. There has been no indication, to my knowledge, that he wants to be somewhere else.

 

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1 hour ago, Pantherzack179812 said:

Only way Cam agrees to that contract is if doctor gives terrible news... we’d be forced to pay it anyway. 

This is false, Cam has no leverage at all in the situation.  The only thing Cam can do to control his own destiny is retire.  If Cam sits out he will still be under contract the following year, he has to play at least 6 games to acrue 1 season under contract. Only power players have sitting out is that the team needs them to play. When Tepper announced that the team is in rebuild mode, Cam lost tgat leverage.  The Panthers will have no pressure to bring him back.  The team has all the leverage, and whether or not Cam plays here next year will be up to them.

Also, as panther fans it makes all the sense in the world to let him play his contract out next season so everyone can see if he can come back healthy.  Franchise QBs are so hard to find and we know we have one in Cam.  I also feel if the team gets some kind of stupid Herschel Walker type deal for Cam, they have to take it.

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I don't get why people are so enamored with the idea of burning it all down and rebuilding. Cam may be done...but I'd rather watch him go out and see what he has left for a year than start playing the lottery with draft picks that don't usually pan out.

I know we'll be there eventually, but there's a much better chance that Cam still has a few years left than there is the chance of us hitting jackpot in the draft.

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My feelings haven't changed. If Cam is willing to play next year on his current contract, you absolutely bring him back. 21 million is worth it to find out if can return to early 2018 form. 

If he's not willing to play on the current contract, the situation gets far more complicated. 

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55 minutes ago, Daywa1ker said:

I don't get why people are so enamored with the idea of burning it all down and rebuilding. Cam may be done...but I'd rather watch him go out and see what he has left for a year than start playing the lottery with draft picks that don't usually pan out.

I know we'll be there eventually, but there's a much better chance that Cam still has a few years left than there is the chance of us hitting jackpot in the draft.

People are not opposed to one year deals.... freaking Igo has said he is likely gone... what else do you want? Everyone with any substance has said it! He is not playing for 1 year with his injury problems. These talk show hosts in their moms basement don’t know what the hell they’re talking about. 

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1 minute ago, Pantherzack179812 said:

People are not opposed to one year deals.... freaking Igo has said he is likely gone... what else do you want? Everyone with any substance has said it! He is not playing for 1 year with his injury problems. These talk show hosts in their moms basement don’t know what the hell they’re talking about. 

What else do I want? I want to see Cam play another year before we dive into the land of the unknown QB situation for the next decade.

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2 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

Well, he is already under contract for next season at what is a remarkably reasonable price if he is capable of playing. If he makes it through the season and can continue playing, then a contract can be negotiated after that. There has been no indication, to my knowledge, that he wants to be somewhere else.

 

As far as I know, Cam hasn't said that he wants to stay here since he shut it down week 2.

Cam pretty much hasn't commented on football in a bit, unless I've just missed it somewhere.  I find that very strange.

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