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Prospects at 7: Let's hear it...who Jumps Out?

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*Gone/Don't bother to mention: Burrow, Young.  Also, the following is in no particular order (or maybe it is...):

1. Jeffrey Okudah (CB)

2. Derrick Brown (DT)

3. Andrew Thomas (OT)

4. Jedrick Wills (OT)

5. Jerry Jeudy (WR)

6. Isaiah Simmons (LB)

7. Tua Tag (QB)

8. Cedee Lamb (WR)

9. Tristan Wirfs (OT)

10. Justin Herbert (QB)

11. Javon Kinlaw (DT)

12. AJ Epenesa (DE)

 

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I am confident one of the 12 listed is our pick.  Who jumps out the most to you?  Is there anyone you think is about as can't miss as they come?  Is there one that looks like an obvious perpetual all-pro with legit leadership abilities? Does anyone from the lower ranks make a meteoric rise? 

I'd have to say Okudah and Jeudy are super tantalizing.  Elite prospects at their positions.  Does their star potential supersede needs? 

https://thedraftnetwork.com/prospect-rankings

 

I wanna hear from youuuuuuuuuuu

 

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Nice thread was thinking the same...

Top 7 for me atp (things may change leading to the draft)

1 Burrow

2  Jeudy

3 Wills

4 Okudah

5  Chase

6  Thomas

7 Simmons

Top players I love later...

Jalen Reagor

Wirfs

Kinlaw

Ruggs

Eason

 

 

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1 minute ago, stirs said:

Same thread, 14th different title

Well look at you mister

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This draft...extremely top heavy.  Talent drops off considerably after round 2. 

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1 hour ago, saX man said:

*Gone/Don't bother to mention: Burrow, Young.  Also, the following is in no particular order (or maybe it is...):

1. Jeffrey Okudah (CB)

2. Derrick Brown (DT)

3. Andrew Thomas (OT)

4. Jedrick Wills (OT)

5. Jerry Jeudy (WR)

6. Isaiah Simmons (LB)

7. Tua Tag (QB)

8. Cedee Lamb (WR)

9. Tristan Wirfs (OT)

10. Justin Herbert (QB)

11. Javon Kinlaw (DT)

12. AJ Epenesa (DE)

 

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I am confident one of the 12 listed is our pick.  Who jumps out the most to you?  Is there anyone you think is about as can't miss as they come?  Is there one that looks like an obvious perpetual all-pro with legit leadership abilities? Does anyone from the lower ranks make a meteoric rise? 

I'd have to say Okudah and Jeudy are super tantalizing.  Elite prospects at their positions.  Does their star potential supersede needs? 

https://thedraftnetwork.com/prospect-rankings

 

I wanna hear from youuuuuuuuuuu

 

What I am hoping is that the Panthers have moved on from our old blueprint of loading the front 7 with 1st round talent, and skimping on the o-line. it didn't work for Jon Fox, it didn't work for Rivera, and it won't work for the new coaching staff over the long run. Stopping the run and running the ball is how you get to 8-8ish, and 8-8 is football purgatory. You miss the playoffs, and you miss the top draft talent as well. Or you squeak into the playoffs by the skin of your teeth, and then get curb stomped, and draft even lower.

Fox ball is for losers. Fox ball is about beating up on bottom feeding teams by pushing their lines around, and then you claw your way to 8-8. No more.

The plan has to change starting with how we draft. We don't need an elite MLB to tackle the RB. A regular MLB will do just fine, and if he get's busted up (a certainty) it's not a big deal. Go get a young fresh one and dump him. Churn the LB position. Fresh legs, a willingness to destroy their body, financially broke, good football IQ, these are the LBs we need for the new blueprint. NO 1st round LBs. Hell no. I want young violent LBs who are dead broke and looking to make their fortune. If they make some mistakes, fug it. It's not rocket science, they'll pick it up or dump them and bring in a smarter guy. That being said, Isaiah Simmons is off the list.

I want to play zone defense. The reason is because we don't need elite shut down CBs to play zone. We need zone CBs who can be drafted lower. Having a shut down CB doesn't stop good teams from passing the ball to all the other weapons the field and running up the score, and with the rules the way they are any CB is going to get beaten. We'll play our zone with Bradberry and pair him with a later round rangy zone CB, and move Jackson to the slot. Jeffrey Okudah is off the list.

In order for our zone defense to be effective we must collapse the pocket so timing QBs (Drew Brees) can't eat us alive. The pocket must collapse, get Drew off his spot, and effect his follow through (see Brees injuring his hand this season). What works against Brees will work against all timing passers, and other teams as well. We must dethrone the Saints to make the payoffs, so a premium pick can be used to collapse the pocket or use speed to rush the passer. Derrick Brown is on the list.

Protecting the QB with a good o-line is common sense. You need a healthy QB, and passing is much easier in today's NFL, so put the ball in the air. The more time you can buy the QB the more wonderful rewards you'll rack up. Pass interference, guys breaking wide open, gassing the defense, it's just amazing when you can pass. This draft is NOT loaded with talented LTs. poo drops off a damn cliff by the time you're looking at Wirfs, who is too slow to play LT and might be too slow for RT as well and end up at OG. Tristan Wirfs is off the list. You know who isn't too slow? You know who is quick and silky smooth and can play LT no problem? Andrew Thomas is on the list.

In my blueprint a worthy offensive weapon is usually a good pick. We want to collect weapons like they they're going out of style, but we must do things in order. The problem is that we have yet to build our o-line, or d-line, and we can't put our QB in jeopardy for an otherwise smart and reasonable pick. It pains me to say this because I want him, but Jerry Jeudy is off the list.

We should trade down if Thomas and Brown are gone, and we would find multiple extremely interested partners due to the talent drop off after our pick. The trade down is an option due to our horrific need for players on both sides of the ball. We're terrible and we need a lot of help all over the field. If Thomas and Brown are gone, then I predict a trade down. We will then target a lesser OT at a lower more appropriate spot.

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OT: Thomas, Wirfs

DL: Brown, Kinlaw

QB: depends on A) our willingness to trade up for Burrow and B) what's Tua's medical status.

I'll be disappointed if our pick is anyone outside of those six.

Here's a mock I just did:

YOUR PICKS
1: R1P7
 
QB TUA TAGOVAILOA
ALABAMA
2: R2P6
 
C LLOYD CUSHENBERRY
LSU
3: R3P5
 
DL LEKI FOTU
UTAH
4: R4P7
 
G SOLOMON KINDLEY
GEORGIA
5: R5P6
 
WR DENZEL MIMS
BAYLOR
6: R6P5
 
S REGGIE FLOYD
VIRGINIA TECH
7: R7P7
 
K DOMINIK EBERLE
UTAH STATE
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Seriously the greatest player in the draft is Jerry Jeudy.  Best WR since Moss.

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6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

OT: Thomas, Wirfs

DL: Brown, Kinlaw

QB: depends on A) our willingness to trade up for Burrow and B) what's Tua's medical status.

I'll be disappointed if our pick is anyone outside of those six.

Here's a mock I just did:

YOUR PICKS
1: R1P7
 
QB TUA TAGOVAILOA
ALABAMA
2: R2P6
 
C LLOYD CUSHENBERRY
LSU
3: R3P5
 
DL LEKI FOTU
UTAH
4: R4P7
 
G SOLOMON KINDLEY
GEORGIA
5: R5P6
 
WR DENZEL MIMS
BAYLOR
6: R6P5
 
S REGGIE FLOYD
VIRGINIA TECH
7: R7P7
 
K DOMINIK EBERLE
UTAH STATE

Tua?  Really?

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28 minutes ago, Shocker said:

This draft...extremely top heavy.  Talent drops off considerably after round 2. 

Thank you, Mike Maycock 

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1 hour ago, stirs said:

Same thread, 14th different title

Anything beats another “Cam Newton is our QB for the next 50 years and fug anyone who disagrees” thread.

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So Cam is good?

Pick Jeudy and then 2nd Ruggs and lets play TD 40s

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1 minute ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Thank you, Mike Maycock 

Welcome nice ass

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7 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Tua?  Really?

If he's the pick I'm assuming all the medicals check out.

Honestly, I'm Burrow or bust on QBs but I feel a lot better about QB evaluations having Joe Brady onboard. 

If Tua is the pick, I won't hate it. Hell, I hate Herbert as a prospect but it's largely due to what I've been able to watch him do in that Oregon offense. If he's the pick, I have to believe that we've come to the conclusion that he's capable of much more than Oregon asked of him.

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Anyone that would be in the trenches. Anyone else would be a stupid pick. Especially with the possibility of top linemen falling to us at 7 Because of QB needy teams taking a chance at QB's before us. 

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