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@bull123  Does this type of outburst make you want to vote for him more?  We honestly are having hospitals fill up and deaths per day reach about 1000 again.

 

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1320711322284281862

The Fake News Media is riding COVID, COVID, COVID, all the way to the Election. Losers!
 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Fryfan said:

 

@bull123  Does this type of outburst make you want to vote for him more?  We honestly are having hospitals fill up and deaths per day reach about 1000 again.

 

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1320711322284281862

The Fake News Media is riding COVID, COVID, COVID, all the way to the Election. Losers!
 

Did the POTUS just "Yada yada yada" the Coronavirus that's killed almost a quarter million Americans?

He truly doesn't understand why people are more concerned about human death and suffering than his easing regulations of dishwashers.

 

If there was any remaining doubt that he doesn't even consider the average person human, much less care about them beyond how far they are useful to him, this really should erase any doubt. Should being the operative word, because that was clear to anyone with a remotely functional brain years ago. It doesn't apply to his key demographic.

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What has not been very clear to the American people is just what kind of COVID test is being administered to them and what the sensitivity and specificity of such an exam be? This information I will share with you is from the No Agenda Podcast that is an open source podcast that has many people in a variety of fields contribute to the construction of it by donation. There was a show this last Sunday, a man that emailed in from Florida about the PCR COVID testing as he works for the medical examiner's office as a doc. He is able to read the detailed procedures of how the PCR test is done in the lab.

He states that these labs that are used are allowed by the federal emergency authorization to use up to 45 cycles for their PCR testing. This may not mean much but, for most other viral tests that number would be 25-35 max. Increasing the amount of "cycles" increases the amount of replications that are performed on the genetic material leading to increased amounts of false positives. This of course is a hypothesis, but given the nature of this disease as it has traveled through the American population, cases now are not as severe as the disease outset, if they were the media would be all over it!

We will of course see the truth in the end when the jig is up. We will see who was telling the truth and who was a dishonest person. For now freedom should reign, and common courtesy should also reign. We shouldn't force our opinions on others, but let the facts fall were they may.

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15 minutes ago, Drew Bari said:

What has not been very clear to the American people is just what kind of COVID test is being administered to them and what the sensitivity and specificity of such an exam be? This information I will share with you is from the No Agenda Podcast that is an open source podcast that has many people in a variety of fields contribute to the construction of it by donation. There was a show this last Sunday, a man that emailed in from Florida about the PCR COVID testing as he works for the medical examiner's office as a doc. He is able to read the detailed procedures of how the PCR test is done in the lab.

He states that these labs that are used are allowed by the federal emergency authorization to use up to 45 cycles for their PCR testing. This may not mean much but, for most other viral tests that number would be 25-35 max. Increasing the amount of "cycles" increases the amount of replications that are performed on the genetic material leading to increased amounts of false positives. This of course is a hypothesis, but given the nature of this disease as it has traveled through the American population, cases now are not as severe as the disease outset, if they were the media would be all over it!

We will of course see the truth in the end when the jig is up. We will see who was telling the truth and who was a dishonest person. For now freedom should reign, and common courtesy should also reign. We shouldn't force our opinions on others, but let the facts fall were they may.

You're really bad at this so it makes me think you're another cucky alt.

225,000 people have died from this.

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2 minutes ago, 332nd said:

You're really bad at this so it makes me think you're another cucky alt.

225,000 people have died from this.

Bad at what exactly? Oh that's right, I'm just supposed to trash people all the time cause I'm mad at the world routine.

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Just now, Drew Bari said:

Bad at what exactly? Oh that's right, I'm just supposed to trash people all the time cause I'm mad at the world routine.

So you don't know that one of the hosts for No Agenda thinks that the earthquake in Haiti was caused by an "earthquake machine"?

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Just now, 332nd said:

So you don't know that one of the hosts for No Agenda thinks that the earthquake in Haiti was caused by an "earthquake machine"?

And so? I'm supposed to review 13 years of podcasting to see if there is something I don't agree to lambast him for? Get a life!

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LOL! Yeah its cucky.

The earthquake machine isn't the only conspiracy theory he believes dumbass. It's just the the most moronic. 

 

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3 hours ago, Drew Bari said:

What has not been very clear to the American people is just what kind of COVID test is being administered to them and what the sensitivity and specificity of such an exam be? This information I will share with you is from the No Agenda Podcast that is an open source podcast that has many people in a variety of fields contribute to the construction of it by donation. There was a show this last Sunday, a man that emailed in from Florida about the PCR COVID testing as he works for the medical examiner's office as a doc. He is able to read the detailed procedures of how the PCR test is done in the lab.

He states that these labs that are used are allowed by the federal emergency authorization to use up to 45 cycles for their PCR testing. This may not mean much but, for most other viral tests that number would be 25-35 max. Increasing the amount of "cycles" increases the amount of replications that are performed on the genetic material leading to increased amounts of false positives. This of course is a hypothesis, but given the nature of this disease as it has traveled through the American population, cases now are not as severe as the disease outset, if they were the media would be all over it!

We will of course see the truth in the end when the jig is up. We will see who was telling the truth and who was a dishonest person. For now freedom should reign, and common courtesy should also reign. We shouldn't force our opinions on others, but let the facts fall were they may.

More cycles increases the sensitivity, yes, and will result in more positives overall but that doesn't create infection where there is none (assuming that false positives due to erroneous cross-contamination are nominal). Perhaps people who would have been below a threshold of 35 cycles are being counted but the point is that it still accurately shows the breadth of viral spread and exposure.

It is fair to say that PCR test can not definitively say yes/no to the question of truly active infection/virulence or risk of spreading from an individual. The whole point though is if every case is treated as a potential 'contagious' then the spread is more effectively controlled. This is much easier to do when overall case numbers are low but that ship has long since sailed.

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Welp another roll back of Obama regulation and current federal rubber stamps comes to light. 
 

the government inspectors deployed by CMS during the first six months of the crisis cleared nearly 8 in 10 nursing homes of any infection-control violations even as the deadliest pandemic to strike the United States in a century sickened and killed thousands, a Washington Post investigation found.

Those cleared included homes with mounting coronavirus outbreaks before or during the inspections, as well as those that saw cases and deaths spiral upward after inspectors reported no violations had been found, in some cases multiple times. All told, homes that received a clean bill of health earlier this year had about 290,000 coronavirus cases and 43,000 deaths among residents and staff, state and federal data shows.

Patient watchdog groups acknowledge that not every outbreak could have been prevented, even with adequate infection-control practices in place. But as the pandemic raged, the number of homes flagged for infection-control violations remained about the same as last year.

The facilities that were cited for breakdowns often escaped significant penalties, The Post also found.

Inspectors reported violations at about 3,500 homes, ranging from dirty medical equipment to a lack of social distancing. Though federal law allows CMS to levy fines of roughly $22,000 for each day a serious violation lingers, most providers were fined little or nothing at all.

 

The inspections follow a three-year push at CMS to ease rules long considered burdensome to the nursing home industry, whose lobbyists and leaders include former politicians and government insiders. Even before the coronavirus crisis, the agency took steps to limit the use of some fines and strike an Obama-era mandate requiring nursing homes to bring on at least part-time infection preventionists.

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US records its worst week yet, 500,000 new virus cases

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/10/30/us/us-covid-case-record.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

 

Taiwan marks 200 days without any domestic cases of Covid-19

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/29/taiwan-domestic-covid-19-infection

 

Idiot anti-maskers: "nOtHiNg cAn bE dONe"

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1 hour ago, R0CKnR0LLA said:

US records its worst week yet, 500,000 new virus cases

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/10/30/us/us-covid-case-record.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

 

Taiwan marks 200 days without any domestic cases of Covid-19

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/29/taiwan-domestic-covid-19-infection

 

Idiot anti-maskers: "nOtHiNg cAn bE dONe"

Wear masks in public when you feel sick, that's not a new concept to 99% of the world excluding the US. When there is poor air quality or a mass sickness going around everyone wears masks in other countries. The mask's aren't there to protect you from getting sick, unless you are wearing medical quality. They are there to prevent you from spewing particles everywhere all the time and getting other people sick. If everyone wears a mask everyone controls their spread of particles, thus a much lower chance anyone gets sick.

I don't understand why this is so hard for people to understand and do. Then you get the Asthma excusers, I know people with Asthma, not a single one of them uses that as an excuse. They ALL wear masks, they socially distance more carefully when they have to go out and they simply just don't go out as much because they know they are among the highest at-risk/fatality risk among the population.

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Wisconsin is really fuging bad right now. I remember when we hit 1k cases in a day and being alarmed. Now we’re hitting 5-7k cases a day. People are extremely fatigued here and looking down six months of extreme cold, dark snowy weather which is essentially a lockdown for us every year. It’s an absolute poo show. 

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