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Bradberry drawing significant interest ahead of free agency. Not expected to be back with the Panthers

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26 minutes ago, Car123 said:

Bradberry knew his value. He would have been an idiot to sign an extension last offseason. How are you sure we didn’t approach him for an extension?

Agreed. He had no injury history. Same with people complaining about FAs we didn’t get. How do we know someone like Whitworth would have even considered coming here over Los Angeles? We sometimes act like we can sign anyone we want at any time for any amount. It doesn’t work that way in real life. Sometimes people want to play somewhere else and sometimes they have agents telling them how to maximize their value.

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I don't want a big money CB, so I hope he leaves.

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Problem with Bradberry is we don’t know if we’ve seen his ceiling or not. No doubt he is a good player but he’s no Gamble or Norman. And it might not be worth shelling out the money to see and find out.

 

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6 minutes ago, OneBadCat said:

Problem with Bradberry is we don’t know if we’ve seen his ceiling or not. No doubt he is a good player but he’s no Gamble or Norman. And it might not be worth shelling out the money to see and find out.

 

...he'll get paid and turn to sht.... seems thats the in thing.

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Ok, so.... The franchise tag for CBs is 16 mil and teams are willing to offer 15 mil per year deals?  Isn't this an obvious tag and trade scenario?

I mean, there is a chance we net a late 3rd compensatory pick if we let him walk, but then we are restricted in FA.  

Am I missing something? Tag his butt and trade him to the Jets for an early 3rd.

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As much as I would like him to stay, it doesn't make sense to sign him to 15m a year even if we had it to spare. Our Dline is atrocious, we cant stip the run and we aren't going to get pressure on the QB. No CB is going to be able to cover when the QB gets all day to throw or they constantly have to watch for a RB that's blown past our front 7.

If we were a win away from the playoffs I'd say do it, but we aren't and are going to have more pressing needs. 

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3 minutes ago, Leeroy Jenkins Ph.D. said:

Ok, so.... The franchise tag for CBs is 16 mil and teams are willing to offer 15 mil per year deals?  Isn't this an obvious tag and trade scenario?

I mean, there is a chance we net a late 3rd compensatory pick if we let him walk, but then we are restricted in FA.  

Am I missing something? Tag his butt and trade him to the Jets for an early 3rd.

What happens when other teams don’t want to.give up a draft pick AND pay him 15/yr? They know you just want to trade him so why offer much when the other teams know you don’t want to pay him in the first place. Then you’re paying 16M for a rental and the comp pick is another year down the road. And the same hole at CB again. 

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3 hours ago, Real1zOnly said:

Can anybody explain to me why we don't tag him and trade him since he has suitors?

Seems like we just wasting a good asset by allowing him to walk for free. What is the downside of a sign n trade for us?

All this does is just create another hole on defense. I get we are rebuilding but at least try to make use of your only assets. We could get a 2nd round pick for Bradberry easily with his market value.

This rarely happens in the free agency era. 

No team is goi g to cough up picks, plus a major contract. Not when they can just wait and outbid us. 

It's actually in the Panthers best interest to let it happen the normal way, because out comp pick mill definitely be higher than any pick we could get via trade. 

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2 minutes ago, Toomers said:

What happens when other teams don’t want to.give up a draft pick AND pay him 15/yr? They know you just want to trade him so why offer much when the other teams know you don’t want to pay him in the first place. Then you’re paying 16M for a rental and the comp pick is another year down the road. And the same hole at CB again. 

We would need to contact teams and his agent ahead of this move. The tag wouldn't happen without a deal in place.

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James.is the best CB we've had since he's been drafted. No one else comes close.

Marty should set a value for him, offer him a contract, and let him test free agency. He'll either accept our offer, or he'll walk, and we'll get a 3rd comp next year. 

No rocket science to it. 

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1 hour ago, AceBoogie said:

How many times are we going to keep rebuilding the position? At some point you’re going to have to pay guys or you’re going to be in a constant state of rebuilding. 

It sure feels like we are either building players and letting them walk away or over-paying players who eventually under perform. Literally no in-between with us. 

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33 minutes ago, Leeroy Jenkins Ph.D. said:

Ok, so.... The franchise tag for CBs is 16 mil and teams are willing to offer 15 mil per year deals?  Isn't this an obvious tag and trade scenario?

I mean, there is a chance we net a late 3rd compensatory pick if we let him walk, but then we are restricted in FA.  

Am I missing something? Tag his butt and trade him to the Jets for an early 3rd.

I don’t understand it either. I get not wanting to overpay being that we are rebuilding, but why just take a comp pick next year when we could trade for a third in this years draft which will still be higher up than the comp pick 

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4 hours ago, WarPanthers89 said:

I highly disagree. I wish we could keep him because now we are right back in a disaster state at CB with only Jackson returning who was benched at the end of last season. James was our only dependable CB. You are going to get beat from time to time, no CB is really shut down anymore, but he more than held his own against the leagues top WR. Also...if he sucked like you are saying he wouldn’t command over 15 million a season like he is going to get 

We had the worst defensive performances down the stretch than I've seen since I dedicated my Sunday's to the Panthers, and that even goes back to the 2011-2012 mid-game collapses. 

Reminded me a lot of 2010, 2019 did. Allen is better than Clausen was, but the overall result was similar. 

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1 hour ago, stbugs said:

Daryl Worley outplayed Donte last year. I’m wondering if most fans even realize that Worley’s been a decent CB for the Raiders starting the last year and a half.

I wasn't aware. I looked up his stats (after seeing your message) and he had less tackles per game than he had in any season with us, less passes defensed than with us, only 1 interception, no forced fumbles. But I do know stats don't tell the whole story. Hoping he's turning it around then. 

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Tag him and go from there unless we plan on targeting mid tier fa’s with the money that would be use to tag him 

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