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Khyber53

Carolina Really Doesn't Have to Re-sign any free agents

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10 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Seems like that's what we've always tried to do. How's that working out for us?

I think we should just try to focus on trying to field the best possible team we can and not purposely shoot ourselves in the dick to try to pick up an extra mid-round pick or two.

While I do agree with you on what you want the team to do, I just don't think losing any of these guys will cripple the team. Bradberry is the best player of the bunch, but if he doesn't command north of $9 million a year out there, I'd be surprised and that's more money than I'd feel comfortable guaranteeing him. (I've seen quotes north of $12 million on him.)

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Wes Horton retired this off season. Pay attention, guys.

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Some of our FA's need to come back, just in terms of filling a roster.  Speaking in general terms, it's usually cheaper to bring back your own FA's than sign someone elses.  I think guys who want to come back and compete at a reasonable price, you bring them back.  I don't think you sign any Gerald McCoy / Bruce Irvin types, we just don't need them.

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15 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

his play ceiling is lower than his pay ceiling

LOL, nicely put.

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Agreed.  Everyone here is freaking out about bringing free agents back to a defense that was completely toothless last year.

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12 hours ago, dcpanther89 said:

I’d only be interested in Boston and Williams back. Boston deserves a solid 3 year deal. Williams lost a chance to show he was worth a big deal so I feel he should come back on team friendly and work his way back into the status he was previously regarded in.

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2 hours ago, GRWatcher said:

Wes Horton retired this off season. Pay attention, guys.

We know. 

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1 hour ago, BrianS said:

Some of our FA's need to come back, just in terms of filling a roster.  Speaking in general terms, it's usually cheaper to bring back your own FA's than sign someone elses.  I think guys who want to come back and compete at a reasonable price, you bring them back.  I don't think you sign any Gerald McCoy / Bruce Irvin types, we just don't need them.

I thought this, too, but then I realized that most of them could be replaced by, not guys off the street, but the generally nomadic group of journeyman players that come into and out of camps each year, or by draft picks.

Right now, there are players in the XFL that might be able to fill in a few of those positions -- not that the XFL has great players, it's just that many of these folks were JAGs when it comes down to it, no matter how much we might like them individually. You can also look to the CFL or practice squads up and down the league list. Basically, you look to give opportunities now and save some bucks in the process. And definitely give some guys down roster a chance to step up and perform.

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Maybe someone should ask how many of those guys want to stay in Charlotte

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I'd bring back Cockrell, Boston, and maybe Addison but that's it.  You have to field a team.  Otherwise, don't do anything to jeopardize comp picks we should get for McCoy, Bradberry, Butler, Irvin, and possibly Van Roten.  We may be looking at a couple of thirds for Bradberry and McCoy.  I believe Tampa got a third for McCoy last year.  If we think Addison can net a 4th, let him go as well.  Somebody will overpay for Butler as well based on his stats.  I could see a 5th for him and possibly a couple of 7ths for the others.  

Everything we do should be geared toward next year's draft.  Build the lines and defense with this draft.  And after we win 4 games, we should be ready to kill the draft in 2021 with about 10 picks including a top 5.  Everything we do should be in maximizing draft capital in 2021.

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16 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Most bad teams don't have many must re-sign guys. The team was bad for a reason.

Remember when team leadership thought it was important to retain the "core" of a losing team?

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20 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Remember when team leadership thought it was important to retain the "core" of a losing team?

Yep. I'm thinking we're going to need to learn a lot more names this year than we have in the past. Regime change, right?

There's always a couple of lost players that really hurt. I think, though, that both of them left early on with the departure of Olsen and the retirement of Luke. Perhaps the rest will be pretty painless, but full of gain in the end.

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Bruce Irvin is the only FA I like and he won't be effective in what's coming

 

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I really think resigning Cocktrell is a must and even Tre is important. Helps keep our options wider in the draft. By getting these 2 we can concentrate on DL, LB, OL, TE and WR, then get a DB/S in a late round to develop. Too many needs not to sign a couple and they were decent to good (not good to great) last year. Both are good locker room and community guys. Heck even Butler on the 1 year pave it deal might be worth it just to keep our options open (say we don't get a DL in the 1st round).

 

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On 3/9/2020 at 5:37 PM, TheSpecialJuan said:

UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS

But you're right, most of these guys stink. 

I say resign Addison & Boston with 1-year deals. We're going to need vets who'll settle for a cheap deal, know how to speak up & lead rookies via performance.

Everyone else? Meh. Maybe McCoy, but it would have to be less than $8 Mil, which I doubt he'll take.

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