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Comp pick update

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19 hours ago, KDawg004 said:

Crazy we won’t get one comp pick with all the free agents we had. The part the stings the most is losing a 3rd for Bradberry while spotting NO a 3rd for Teddy in a year we shouldn’t be trying to compete.

I think fans care a whole lot more about comp picks than front offices. If they are adding proven veterans then I don't think they care about extra mid to late round picks

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1 hour ago, Daddy_Uncle said:

I think fans care a whole lot more about comp picks than front offices. If they are adding proven veterans then I don't think they care about extra mid to late round picks

Ravens, Cowboys, Packers, Patriots, Rams would say otherwise.

According to this article in 2019 they have received the most all-time.

I would guess the Ravens, Pats and Packers have some of the best win/loss ratios of that time.  Not sure where the Rams and Cowboys rank.

Saints, Browns, Jets at the bottom.

 

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Does make me wonder, would we better off with Andy Dalton, a comp 3rd and an extra $15 million or so, or Teddy Bridgewater? I guess that Joe Brady connection was really meaningful.

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22 hours ago, AU-panther said:

Ravens, Cowboys, Packers, Patriots, Rams would say otherwise.

According to this article in 2019 they have received the most all-time.

I would guess the Ravens, Pats and Packers have some of the best win/loss ratios of that time.  Not sure where the Rams and Cowboys rank.

Saints, Browns, Jets at the bottom.

 

Amazing how easy it is to see that comp picks are a good thing to have. People complain about interior OL and yet it’s somehow a waste to have an extra 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th. Those are 4 picks that could easily help us bolster the OL by taking the best G or C at every pick. Let’s act like that wouldn’t help, especially since we have only 1 starting OL under contract after 2020 and that’s Paradis for 1 year and he’s likely to get released unless he reverts to a top center.

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6 hours ago, Peon Awesome said:

Does make me wonder, would we better off with Andy Dalton, a comp 3rd and an extra $15 million or so, or Teddy Bridgewater? I guess that Joe Brady connection was really meaningful.

Yes. Personally, I think we would have been better off with 4 comp picks, $90M in cap to rollover (Teddy, Anderson, Short) and starting Grier to Clausen us into Lawrence. Extend Moton, Moore and maybe Samuel based on this year. Overdraft OL in 2021 as well as maybe a TE and WR. We’d have a high 2nd, high 3rd, late 3rd, high 4th, low 4th, and 5 more. That would give you a TE, WR and 3 OL and then 5 more 5th+ flyers.

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36 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Yes. Personally, I think we would have been better off with 4 comp picks, $90M in cap to rollover (Teddy, Anderson, Short) and starting Grier to Clausen us into Lawrence. Extend Moton, Moore and maybe Samuel based on this year. Overdraft OL in 2021 as well as maybe a TE and WR. We’d have a high 2nd, high 3rd, late 3rd, high 4th, low 4th, and 5 more. That would give you a TE, WR and 3 OL and then 5 more 5th+ flyers.

 I agree about "punting" this season, like old foxy said "its not a bad play". Then GO HARD in 2021, but here we are.They wanted to make a run for whatever reasons. I did see players comment on going to the Dolphins that them winning games mattered to them. I dont believe it, they just had the most money and an army of draft picks. This season if it happens will be very different and who knows if the panthers can win or not. Now playing the saints at the dome doesnt require snap count adjustments. Many teams and players feed off the crowds and they will not be included this year. Travel will be different along with million other things. 

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On 5/1/2020 at 4:26 PM, Daddy_Uncle said:

I think fans care a whole lot more about comp picks than front offices. If they are adding proven veterans then I don't think they care about extra mid to late round picks

That’s the thing. It’s not like we got any proven veterans to justify the comp picks we’re missing out on. Those comp picks bring value in trades. And like many have stated in this thread, could have built the interior of our OL.

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On 5/2/2020 at 3:58 PM, stbugs said:

Amazing how easy it is to see that comp picks are a good thing to have. People complain about interior OL and yet it’s somehow a waste to have an extra 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th. Those are 4 picks that could easily help us bolster the OL by taking the best G or C at every pick. Let’s act like that wouldn’t help, especially since we have only 1 starting OL under contract after 2020 and that’s Paradis for 1 year and he’s likely to get released unless he reverts to a top center.

I truly believe it is ego.

Coaches believe they can out coach other coaches.

GMs believe they can out GM other GMs.

People get impatient and start to talk themselves into the idea that maybe we aren't that bad, or we can quickly turn it around.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Pazhoosier89 said:

Good news. Finally got some numbers on the Bruce Irvin contract. Good for another 6th round pick. 

https://twitter.com/BradyHenderson/status/1258887722107731968?s=19

 

Nice find

$5.5 million is pricey, we got him for $4 last year. 

Bruce Irvin's one-year deal with the Panthers is worth $4 million, but it can go up to $5 million with incentives, according to a league source.

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5 hours ago, Pazhoosier89 said:

Good news. Finally got some numbers on the Bruce Irvin contract. Good for another 6th round pick. 

https://twitter.com/BradyHenderson/status/1258887722107731968?s=19

 

2021 Projected Compensatory Picks
Team Round Compensated Free Agent APY
LAC 3 Philip Rivers $25,000,000
NE 3 Tom Brady $25,000,000
DAL 3 Byron Jones $16,500,000
NO 3 Teddy Bridgewater $21,000,000
TEN 3 Jack Conklin $14,000,000
LAR 3 Dante Fowler Jr. $15,000,000
MIN 3 Trae Waynes $14,000,000
NE 4 Kyle Van Noy $12,750,000
DAL 4 Robert Quinn $14,000,000
LAR 4 Cory Littleton $11,750,000
PIT 4 Javon Hargrave $13,000,000
GB 4 Blake Martinez $10,250,000
KC 4 Kendall Fuller $10,000,000
NE 4 Jamie Collins $10,000,000
GB 5 Bryan Bulaga $10,000,000
ATL 5 Vic Beasley $9,500,000
DAL 5 Randall Cobb $9,000,000
BAL 5 Michael Pierce $9,000,000
SF 5 Emmanuel Sanders $8,000,000
KC 5 Emmanuel Ogbah $7,500,000
ATL 6 De'Vondre Campbell $6,000,000
TB 6 Breshad Perriman $6,500,000
ATL 6 Wes Schweitzer $4,500,000
PHI 6 Jordan Howard $4,875,000
CHI 6 Nicholas Williams $5,000,000
GB 6 Kyler Fackrell $4,600,000
CHI 6 Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix $3,750,000
MIN 6 Mackensie Alexander $4,000,000
CAR 6 Greg Van Roten $3,500,000
PHI 6 Timmy Jernigan $3,750,000
PIT 6 B.J. Finney $4,000,000
CHI 6 Chase Daniel $4,350,000
Compensation over 32-pick limit; not awarded

 

Looks like we just get a 6th as of now

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2 hours ago, jfra78 said:
2021 Projected Compensatory Picks
Team Round Compensated Free Agent APY
LAC 3 Philip Rivers $25,000,000
NE 3 Tom Brady $25,000,000
DAL 3 Byron Jones $16,500,000
NO 3 Teddy Bridgewater $21,000,000
TEN 3 Jack Conklin $14,000,000
LAR 3 Dante Fowler Jr. $15,000,000
MIN 3 Trae Waynes $14,000,000
NE 4 Kyle Van Noy $12,750,000
DAL 4 Robert Quinn $14,000,000
LAR 4 Cory Littleton $11,750,000
PIT 4 Javon Hargrave $13,000,000
GB 4 Blake Martinez $10,250,000
KC 4 Kendall Fuller $10,000,000
NE 4 Jamie Collins $10,000,000
GB 5 Bryan Bulaga $10,000,000
ATL 5 Vic Beasley $9,500,000
DAL 5 Randall Cobb $9,000,000
BAL 5 Michael Pierce $9,000,000
SF 5 Emmanuel Sanders $8,000,000
KC 5 Emmanuel Ogbah $7,500,000
ATL 6 De'Vondre Campbell $6,000,000
TB 6 Breshad Perriman $6,500,000
ATL 6 Wes Schweitzer $4,500,000
PHI 6 Jordan Howard $4,875,000
CHI 6 Nicholas Williams $5,000,000
GB 6 Kyler Fackrell $4,600,000
CHI 6 Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix $3,750,000
MIN 6 Mackensie Alexander $4,000,000
CAR 6 Greg Van Roten $3,500,000
PHI 6 Timmy Jernigan $3,750,000
PIT 6 B.J. Finney $4,000,000
CHI 6 Chase Daniel $4,350,000
Compensation over 32-pick limit; not awarded

 

Looks like we just get a 6th as of now

Whew, even Van Roten's 6th is dicey.  Notice his contract is for the least amount at $3.5M.  If this dude is correct at OTC (and he usually is) we BARELY got a comp pick.  If he's ever so slightly off, Van Roten won't count.  I won't hold my breath until I see the official release of comp picks from the NFL.

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11 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Whew, even Van Roten's 6th is dicey.  Notice his contract is for the least amount at $3.5M.  If this dude is correct at OTC (and he usually is) we BARELY got a comp pick.  If he's ever so slightly off, Van Roten won't count.  I won't hold my breath until I see the official release of comp picks from the NFL.

Right but we could get one by releasing Davis as well

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8 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

Right but we could get one by releasing Davis as well

Nope, the comp pick portion of the offseason is over and even if Davis does get released and later re-signed, it won't be for the $3 million he current is scheduled to make...not that it matters anymore.

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Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Nope, the comp pick portion of the offseason is over and even if Davis does get released and later re-signed, it won't be for the $3 million he current is scheduled to make...not that it matters anymore.

I'm sure they have to play to have it count against us

Edit or make the final roster

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