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4 minutes ago, CRA said:

well, Trump doesn’t debate.  He doesn’t even do interviews.  He just campaigns and does lies.  That aside...

Biden debated all the Dems.  Group and one on one.   And won. What you are currently doing is just echoing Trump campaign propaganda....that somehow pretends that didn’t happen. 

 

biden looked like poo every single time he faced the slightest pushback in those debates. lucky for him it didnt happen very often. think a debate with trump will look like those democratic debates? lol

he has been losing his poo on reporters tossing him softball questions. at least twice now he has showcased his short fuse with black questioners, telling one “you ain’t black” and accusing the other of being a “junkie” despite neither being remotely aggressive toward him. total softball interviews. his brain is gone and you look ridiculous defending it. probably says something about your mental state as well. might want to look into one of those cognitive tests.

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44 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

Easily. Did you read the bill the house pushed and the one bernie wanted? To full implementation? If the one that was most recently was pushed. Everyone would have been fuged way worse than they are now.

Have you done the math of court challenges when a Texas or Alabama Federal court puts a hold on the entire thing and it takes a year to trickle to the SCOTUS?

Do you think that a court challenge puts a hold on something and everyone just puts their hands up and stops what they are doing?

 

Pending litigation it still moves forward. You can look at Obamacare  as a very recent example which has far less support and was way more complicated. 
 

also you are a autistic failson who can’t read. 

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21 minutes ago, TheBlue said:

1) there’s no technicality about it. The bill 100% has a 4 year phase in. So the answer no matter how you try to weasel out of it is that M4A isn’t an overnight plan as you characterize.

 

2) you literally have no evidence to support that claim. Obamacare which had far less support and a far more complicated rollout/system that it needed to setup only took 4 years from being signed into law to have most of its major components in place.

 

M4A for all just automatically enrolls people. It’s infinitely more simple of a system to expand. You just don’t know what you are talking about and making poo up

There are campaign promises and ideas and there is the reality of implementing them.

Did Bernie have a 4 year plan? Yes. 

Would it happen in 4? Of course not.  Would take multiple presidential terms.  The support of that is....the history of US government.

but all this is your standard whataboutism of nonsense. 

The issue is healthcare in this country.  2 options.  Have the guy who wants to take coverage away win. Or have the guy that wants to cover more people and get us back on the road to universal coverage.  That is what is presented to YOU. 

 

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14 minutes ago, TheBlue said:

Do you think that a court challenge puts a hold on something and everyone just puts their hands up and stops what they are doing?

 

Pending litigation it still moves forward. You can look at Obamacare  as a very recent example which has far less support and was way more complicated. 
 

also you are a autistic failson who can’t read. 

So when trump brought anti immigration policy through executive order it wasn’t put on hold by the courts, right? Just want to clarify this with you.

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14 minutes ago, CRA said:

There are campaign promises and ideas and there is the reality of implementing them.

Did Bernie have a 4 year plan? Yes. 

Would it happen in 4? Of course not.  Would take multiple presidential terms.  The support of that is....the history of US government.

 

 

So you have no support of your claim then? Because what you just wrote is complete garbage.

again, you can look at very recent history that disproves your assertion. Obamacare was a more complicated system to rollout and had far more opposition than M4A does. That didn’t even take multiple presidential terms to get done. 
 

You are making poo up. 

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41 minutes ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

biden looked like poo every single time he faced the slightest pushback in those debates. lucky for him it didnt happen very often. think a debate with trump will look like those democratic debates? lol

he has been losing his poo on reporters tossing him softball questions. at least twice now he has showcased his short fuse with black questioners, telling one “you ain’t black” and accusing the other of being a “junkie” despite neither being remotely aggressive toward him. total softball interviews. his brain is gone and you look ridiculous defending it. probably says something about your mental state as well. might want to look into one of those cognitive tests.

Cool.  He still went up against everyone multiple times.  And one and one. Who won? Biden.  

I already addressed Trump debates. Already addressed they aren’t the same. He doesn’t debate.  He doesn’t discuss policy.  He doesn’t answer questions.  He just campaigns and projects lies.  Which is why he wants more added and quick.  To replace his rallies. 

Who is defending Biden’s mental state? lol.  All you got is Trumper projection that you argue off of.  We have 2 dudes in mental decline who shouldn’t be POTUS.  Which I have addressed countless times. 

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6 minutes ago, TheBlue said:

So you have no support of your claim then? Because what you just wrote is complete garbage.

again, you can look at very recent history that disproves your assertion. Obamacare was a more complicated system to rollout and had far more opposition than M4A does. That didn’t even take multiple presidential terms to get done. 
 

You are making poo up. 

What age bracket you fall in. 

If you don’t think the history of US government is support that M4A wouldn’t happen in 4 years I can’t help you.

has nothing to do with Medicare 4 All being more simplistic.  

“Obamacare” never got completed in reality. It was just a starting piece.  A starting piece that was intentionally sabotaged every step of the way.

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22 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

So when trump brought anti immigration policy through executive order it wasn’t put on hold by the courts, right? Just want to clarify this with you.

How about you just look at recent and relevant litigation with Obamacare and answer your own question. 

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3 minutes ago, CRA said:

If you don’t think the history of US government is support that M4A wouldn’t happen in 4 years I can’t help you.

Yes I don’t think the entire history of the US government is sufficient support of the claim that M4A would take multiple presidential terms. You can’t even point to specific examples. We literally have a very recent and relevant example in Obamacare that did not take multiple terms to enact. 
 

If you have any examples to support your claim I offer you to cite them or concede you are just talking out of your ass.

 

5 minutes ago, CRA said:

has nothing to do with Medicare 4 All being more simplistic.  

Of course it does. How simple a policy is the easier it is to enact. Are you really going to argue against this? 
 

6 minutes ago, CRA said:

Obamacare” never got completed in reality. It was just a starting piece.

Define never got completed in reality. Is it or is it not 1) signed into law 2) available on the marketplace right now? 
 

second whether it was a starting piece or not it wholly irrelevant to the fact it did not take multiple years to enact. You have no counter to that.

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9 minutes ago, TheBlue said:

How about you just look at recent and relevant litigation with Obamacare and answer your own question. 

You answer your own question...

whether you want to do or undo something....the courts are a tool used to prevent either.  Which is where Obamacare has been.  Held up in the courts despite Trump trying to destroy it. 

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Just now, CRA said:

You answer your own question...

whether you want to do or undo something....the courts are a tool used to prevent either.  Which is where Obamacare has been.  Held up in the courts despite Trump trying to destroy it. 

Held up in courts? Is the ACA not operating right now? 
 

From my understanding there is litigation but that doesn’t prevent the majority of the system working. 
 

you gonna answer my other post or pivot as usual?

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15 minutes ago, TheBlue said:

Yes I don’t think the entire history of the US government is sufficient support of the claim that M4A would take multiple presidential terms. You can’t even point to specific examples. We literally have a very recent and relevant example in Obamacare that did not take multiple terms to enact. 
 

If you have any examples to support your claim I offer you to cite them or concede you are just talking out of your ass.

 

Of course it does. How simple a policy is the easier it is to enact. Are you really going to argue against this? 
 

Define never got completed in reality. Is it or is it not 1) signed into law 2) available on the marketplace right now? 
 

second whether it was a starting piece or not it wholly irrelevant to the fact it did not take multiple years to enact. You have no counter to that.

Again, if you don’t realize how the US government gets in the way of everything big and small....I can’t help you.   And while M4A is simple....it impacts aren’t.  Hence why it would never roll out as Bernie pitched.  And Bernie knows that. 

the fact it was a starting piece has everything to do with it.  As did the never ending sabotage of it that never allowed it to function as intended.  

this is all a pointless rabbit hole given what the actual topics of today are.  Which is Trump taking away coverage vs Biden putting us back on the road Obama started. 

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12 minutes ago, TheBlue said:

Held up in courts? Is the ACA not operating right now? 
 

From my understanding there is litigation but that doesn’t prevent the majority of the system working. 
 

you gonna answer my other post or pivot as usual?

Yes, it is operating....because it is held up in courts.   

create or destroy.  The courts are a tool for delay.   

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