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Cam Newton "Nobody Called Me....They Sent a Text"

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On 7/14/2020 at 12:27 PM, PantherBoy95 said:

Yeah, yeah I know, I know "Another Cam Thread"...you clicked on it lol.

Point being, this is VERY much worth the watch, if it's a topic you're interested in.
Even if you're not, it's a cool conversation, very much like LeBron's 'The Shop'
He definitely let you in on how it went down and his mentality throughout his time in Carolina as far as dedicating himself to the organization.
 

https://twitter.com/OnePantherPlace/status/1282884225507753985?s=20

what a bunch of divas

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23 hours ago, PantherBoy95 said:

One thing that Cam did not mention in the interview when it came to not being picked up was money.  Which makes me wonder just how willing he was to not accept a lucrative deal to sign with a team.  It wouldn't surprise me if he wanted upper tier money, but then when the Patriots called specifically he decided it could prolong his career and get him that huge deal the next year.

it was the only team that offered him anything...league minimum

 

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4 hours ago, OneBadCat said:

Jake Delhomme was a bad QB and got a Cinderella send off. Cam is one of the best players we’ve ever had. Tepper should have catered to the fans and given Cam a classy send off. The team existed before Tepper bought them. It a horrible look.

compare Jakes record with Cams....Jake didnt have half the talent cam has but he was a winner

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4 hours ago, AggieLean said:

Raz, I’m sure these last few years have been great for you. Not much emotion shown by any Carolina Panther, but there’s also been a lot of losing.

I can imagine your emotionless game of football comes with us losing a lot.

Players talk pure shxt to each other throughout the entire game, but now “stunting” is going too far? Lol when a CB makes a stop, 9 out of 10 CB’s are going to let you know he’s stopped you. A lot of y’all never played organized ball it seems. 

Bruh!!!

If you're not playing football as an emotional wreck, then you ain't doing it right. Sorry it isn't golf, or pick up basketball, tennis at the fitness center, tiddly winks, or whatever these dudes play. You're preparing to go out and fight multiple dudes for damn near an hour!

Yeeeeesh!

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6 minutes ago, bull123 said:

compare Jakes record with Cams....Jake didnt have half the talent cam has but he was a winner

Are you being sarcastic? I can't tell without context.

If not, then... boy go sit down someplace. 

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23 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Are you being sarcastic? I can't tell without context.

If not, then... boy go sit down someplace. 

do the research

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1 minute ago, bull123 said:

do the research

I'm an actual fan that watched almost every game of both their careers. I don't have to "do the research."

Receivers: Not even close - Jake

Running Backs: Even

Offensive line: Not even close - Jake

TEs: Not even close - Cam

Defensive Line: Not even close - Jake

Secondary: Jake

Linebackers: Slight advantage to Cam

 

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34 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

I'm an actual fan that watched almost every game of both their careers. I don't have to "do the research."

Receivers: Not even close - Jake

Running Backs: Even

Offensive line: Not even close - Jake

TEs: Not even close - Cam

Defensive Line: Not even close - Jake

Secondary: Jake

Linebackers: Slight advantage to Cam

 

cam's o-line could have been that good if donalley would have showed them where to get the juice

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43 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

I'm an actual fan that watched almost every game of both their careers. I don't have to "do the research."

Receivers: Not even close - Jake

Running Backs: Even

Offensive line: Not even close - Jake

TEs: Not even close - Cam

Defensive Line: Not even close - Jake

Secondary: Jake

Linebackers: Slight advantage to Cam

 

Our Offense was Cam and everyone else ate after he set the pace. Olsen never put up Smith numbers. One was an MVP and the other was not.

Jake

Year
Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% 1D Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV
Career       103 96 56-40-0 1741 2932 59.4 20975 126 4.3 101 3.4 979 80 7.2 6.5 12.0 203.6 81.3   168 1267 6.36 5.70 5.4 19 24 67
7 yrs CAR     91 90 53-37-0 1580 2669 59.2 19258 120 4.5 89 3.3 906 80 7.2 6.6 12.2 211.6 82.6   154 1158 6.41 5.84 5.5 17 22 62
2 yrs NOR     6 2 1-1-0 50 86 58.1 634 3 3.5 5 5.8 28 54 7.4 5.5 12.7 105.7 68.7   6 42 6.43 4.64 6.5 1 0 2
1 yr CLE     5 4 2-2-0 93 149 62.4 872 2 1.3 7 4.7 36 49 5.9 4.0 9.4 174.4 63.4   6 49 5.31 3.54 3.9 1 2 2
1 yr HOU     1 0   18 28 64.3 211 1 3.6 0 0.0 9 40 7.5 8.3 11.7 211.0 99.0   2 18 6.43 7.10 6.7     1
1999 24 NOR   9 2 2 1-1-0 42 76 55.3 521 3 3.9 5 6.6 24 51 6.9 4.7 12.4 260.5 62.4   6 42 5.84 3.83 7.3 1 0 2
2002 27 NOR   12 4 0   8 10 80.0 113 0 0.0 0 0.0 4 54 11.3 11.3 14.1 28.3 113.7   0 0 11.30 11.30 0.0     0
2003 28 CAR QB 17 16 15 10-5-0 266 449 59.2 3219 19 4.2 16 3.6 147 67 7.2 6.4 12.1 201.2 80.6   23 168 6.46 5.74 4.9 5 7 10
2004 29 CAR QB 17 16 16 7-9-0 310 533 58.2 3886 29 5.4 15 2.8 193 63 7.3 7.1 12.5 242.9 87.3   33 246 6.43 6.26 5.8 2 3 13
2006 31 CAR QB 17 13 13 7-6-0 263 431 61.0 2805 17 3.9 11 2.6 129 72 6.5 6.1 10.7 215.8 82.6 46.7 22 167 5.82 5.48 4.9 2 2 7
2007 32 CAR   17 3 3 2-1-0 55 86 64.0 624 8 9.3 1 1.2 27 74 7.3 8.6 11.3 208.0 111.8 64.4 5 46 6.35 7.62 5.5     2
2008 33 CAR QB 17 16 16 12-4-0 246 414 59.4 3288 15 3.6 12 2.9 153 65 7.9 7.4 13.4 205.5 84.7 56.2 20 130 7.28 6.72 4.6 4 5 13
2009 34 CAR QB 17 11 11 4-7-0 178 321 55.5 2015 8 2.5 18 5.6 101 52 6.3 4.3 11.3 183.2 59.4 36.9 23 187 5.31 3.42 6.7 1 2 3
2010 35 CLE   17 5 4 2-2-0 93 149 62.4 872 2 1.3 7 4.7 36 49 5.9 4.0 9.4 174.4 63.4 26.7 6 49 5.31 3.54 3.9 1 2 2
2011 36 HOU   17 1 0   18 28 64.3 211 1 3.6 0 0.0 9 40 7.5 8.3 11.7 211.0 99.0 61.5 2 18 6.43 7.10 6.7     1
2005* 30 CAR QB 17 16 16 11-5-0 262 435 60.2 3421 24 5.5 16 3.7 156 80 7.9 7.3 13.1 213.8 88.1   28 214 6.93 6.41 6.0 3 3 14

Cam

Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% 1D Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV
Career       125 124 68-55-1 2371 3980 59.6 29041 182 4.6 108 2.7 1419 91 7.3 7.0 12.2 232.3 86.1   291 2199 6.28 6.00 6.8 15 17 123
2011* 22 CAR QB 1 16 16 6-10-0 310 517 60.0 4051 21 4.1 17 3.3 176 91 7.8 7.2 13.1 253.2 84.5 58.1 35 260 6.87 6.24 6.3 1 1 19
2012 23 CAR QB 1 16 16 7-9-0 280 485 57.7 3869 19 3.9 12 2.5 171 82 8.0 7.6 13.8 241.8 86.2 58.3 36 244 6.96 6.65 6.9 1 1 16
2013* 24 CAR QB 1 16 16 12-4-0 292 473 61.7 3379 24 5.1 13 2.7 172 79 7.1 6.9 11.6 211.2 88.8 64.3 43 336 5.90 5.69 8.3 4 4 16
2014 25 CAR QB 1 14 14 5-8-1 262 448 58.5 3127 18 4.0 12 2.7 156 51 7.0 6.6 11.9 223.4 82.1 57.3 38 300 5.82 5.45 7.8 3 2 12
2015*+ 26 CAR QB 1 16 16 15-1-0 296 495 59.8 3837 35 7.1 10 2.0 195 74 7.8 8.3 13.0 239.8 99.4 67.0 33 284 6.73 7.20 6.3 3 4 20
2016 27 CAR QB 1 15 14 6-8-0 270 510 52.9 3509 19 3.7 14 2.7 173 88 6.9 6.4 13.0 233.9 75.8 48.0 36 277 5.92 5.46 6.6     11
2017 28 CAR QB 1 16 16 11-5-0 291 492 59.1 3302 22 4.5 16 3.3 167 64 6.7 6.1 11.3 206.4 80.7 53.3 35 242 5.81 5.28 6.6 1 3 15
2018 29 CAR QB 1 14 14 6-8-0 320 471 67.9 3395 24 5.1 13 2.8 180 82 7.2 7.0 10.6 242.5 94.2 55.0 29 213 6.36 6.15 5.8 2 2 13
2019 30 CAR   1 2 2 0-2-0 50 89 56.2 572 0 0.0 1 1.1 29 44 6.4 5.9 11.4 286.0 71.0   6 43 5.57 5.09 6.3     1

 

And that is without adding rushing to the conversation. Just dumb. Cam is/was a beast and Jake was 'our' JAG.

Edit: Both 7 years with the Panthers is very easy to compare...

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14 hours ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

Well that's one awful "football decision" to replace a guy like Cam Newton with a guy like sh*t the bed Ted?! Yikes. Got a good feeling that move will cost the team and probably someone's job in the nearer future

They got their guy. Now we will see if it a good decision or bad.

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5 hours ago, OneBadCat said:

Jake Delhomme was a bad QB and got a Cinderella send off. Cam is one of the best players we’ve ever had. Tepper should have catered to the fans and given Cam a classy send off. The team existed before Tepper bought them. It a horrible look.

Jake was a unheralded guy who overperformed his physical ability. Cam in some ways has never reached his athletic potential for whatever reason. He had the fantastic 2015 season and since then not much. I think the relationship between Tepper and Newton soured  the Panthers and the Corona virus screwed everything up.  It certainly wasn't handled well but I really don't know the inside story on any of it.

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Can't keep crying over old girlfriends, no matter how hot they once were.

Time to move along.

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This got me to thinking how bad this organization is at cutting ties. It really all falls on Hurney. Gettleman sucked at it, too, but JR was tied in. This was handled awfully and why would people want to play here? If you're a long time player, you're eventually going to get poo on.

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I wish Cam all the success in the world in New England. Hopefully now that he's paired with a HC that actually understands adjustments and the modern NFL he can bounce back. I'm not ready to dog pile on Tepp just yet because Cam wasn't his QB in the first place. He gave them an opportunity but unfortunately Ron Rivera was at the helm and Cam was injured.

They could've handled this situation much better though, maybe this will be a lesson learned.

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3 hours ago, Navy_football said:

Bruh!!!

If you're not playing football as an emotional wreck, then you ain't doing it right. Sorry it isn't golf, or pick up basketball, tennis at the fitness center, tiddly winks, or whatever these dudes play. You're preparing to go out and fight multiple dudes for damn near an hour!

Yeeeeesh!

Man, we used to get so hyped during games. I was a talker. I would talk trash all game. I was a CB, and if I made a stop, I was letting you know I stopped you. I got burnt a few times and had to walk back to the huddle telling the guys “I don’t know what happened” or “that’s on me” but I kept talking. We had a guy that would act like a literal maniac, and we also had some eccentric guys like Cam. 
 

If you don’t like seeing emotion, then football isn’t your game. It’s a grind getting every yard in football. It’s why these guys get so excited when they score. 

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Schefter had some interesting comments on WFNZ this morning when asked about this... 

Said Cam's agent (Bus Cook) was well aware the team had planned to put him up for trade long before the supposed text. Schefter knows this because he & Bus actually talked about it months ago.

So, the communication breakdown sounds like it took place between Cam & his agent from this perspective. The team was speaking to Cam through his agent and figured a text was ok because he had already been informed by his agent that this was the plan. 

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