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31 minutes ago, bababoey said:

You do remember he had surgery on his shoulder after the 2016 season and if you watched the 2017 his arm was not right then.  So saying 2017 & 2018 charts are the same is like saying "yeah he was hurt both those years".  If you want to find a healthy Cam you have to go back to 2016 and see what he looked like before he hurt it against the Chargers.

It’s the same since next gen stats were being kept, even in 2016 cam still favored the middle and left side of the field moreso than the right, or I didn’t see more throws to the right back then, than I do now. 2017 he played fine, I don’t recall his shoulder being an issue except for the beginning of the season since he missed time in the offseason putting him behind. 

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1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I watched the game last week and said he looked done.  I watched the game this week and it confirmed my opinion.  When he tries to let it fly it just goes sailing, when he tries to do short and midrange he has a weird little hitch where he is not opening up his shoulder.  Go watch the highlights. 

 

Do you have the charts from 2017 and 2018 that confirm your statement?  Because I dont remember cam ever favoring one side of the field over another, he would just let it loose

 

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9 minutes ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

I'll take your word for it, The one discussion I attempted to have with him a few weeks back it became clear very quickly there was no rational discussion to be had.

 

Ask Igo, any of the mods, or any other veteran huddlers with a IQ above 80.  I have a no ignore policy and he put that to a test regularly.   

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10 minutes ago, therealmjl said:

Does @TheRed still post here?

f'n banned!   

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13 minutes ago, therealmjl said:

Does @TheRed still post here?

I rather you try to summon cthulhu than thered...

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10 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Ask Igo, any of the mods, or any other veteran huddlers with a IQ above 80.  I have a no ignore policy and he put that to a test regularly.   

I think I've only ever ignored variations of chuck.

9 minutes ago, raz said:

f'n banned!   

How did that finally go down? *Clicks on thereds profile and last post from March* *Amazed Incrediblekev didn't get banned along with him*

5 minutes ago, Basbear said:

I rather you try to summon cthulhu than thered...

Ahhhahahahahhaha Now that's pretty intense.

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2 minutes ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

Talk about try hard... lol. 

Yeah forgot facts don’t work with trolls 

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3 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Yeah forgot facts don’t work with trolls 

Your wagon is pretty empty, and your argument fairly hollow as pointed out by several others those stats are post the original shoulder injury you are hence disproving your own argument.

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10 minutes ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

Your wagon is pretty empty, and your argument fairly hollow as pointed out by several others those stats are post the original shoulder injury you are hence disproving your own argument.

Yeah it’s not like 2016 stats aren’t up there either. Unfortunately next gen stats on him start in 2016 so if you want to say he’s been injured since then go ahead. 

But I’ll trust bill’s judgement moreso than posters with an axe to grind on here 
 

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9 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Yeah it’s not like 2016 stats aren’t up there either. Unfortunately next gen stats on him start in 2016 so if you want to say he’s been injured since then go ahead. 

But I’ll trust bill’s judgement moreso than posters with an axe to grind on here 
 

Think as you will, The injury happened vs the Chargers in 2016 dude, Minus Tom Brady Bills career hasn't been great. 

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10 minutes ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

Think as you will, The injury happened vs the Chargers in 2016 dude, Minus Tom Brady Bills career hasn't been great. 

That’s 12 weeks of data before the chargers game.....

Bill has won numerous times without Brady idk what you’re talking about his career hasn’t been great, he has two rings before Brady on the giants staff 

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23 hours ago, Pantherzack179812 said:

The huddle wanted to give that 19 million

Read my posts.  I was telling folks he is done in 2018. Caught hell about it.  Hater--Racist, etc.--nope--realist.  I watched him take those hits and did not cheer like others did.  I was shocked that he could take it.  I knew every hit takes a few days off his career--kinda like what they would say about smoking cigarettes.  It wears you down.  This is why RBs have a short life span.  RR wasted this talent, to a degree.

During his rookie season, I said that Cam is only effective when he is a run threat.  His accuracy and pocket presence is below average.  However, as a dual threat, he is elite.  However, I suggested that if he does not BECOME a pocket passer, his career will be like that of a RB--we'd be lucky to get 10 years out of him.  Most RBs peak at age 27 and are statistically done by age 30 (averages).  Cam has had 1 good season since 2015 (2017).  Basically, he is who he is because Ron never evolved Cam.  He sacrificed his future for the moment. 

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I’m still of the opinion it was a bad move. Hindsight is always 20-20. My position was never that he was going to definitely come back and be great, it was more along the lines of “we’re only paying him 20mil for the season and we are rebuilding, we should at least see if he’s still a franchise QB.” The reward outweighed the risk and now we’re locked into Teddy who is not a franchise QB for 3 seasons.

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none of this sht matters...rest in the fact that we now have an organization that can make the correct football decisions...and not betting with your heart.

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