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Get a franchise quarterback or build the offensive line?

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OL without question. The QB wasn’t what cost us today. The OL getting beat (and the defense, but that’s another story) cost us. We need better guards and a franchise left tackle. 

We’d have a Lombardi if we had a decent RT five years ago. 

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4 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

OL without question. The QB wasn’t what cost us today. The OL getting beat (and the defense, but that’s another story) cost us. We need better guards and a franchise left tackle. 

We’d have a Lombardi if we had a decent RT five years ago. 

We wouldn't have been in a position to compete for that Lombardi if it wasn't for the MVP level QB though. Shula is the primary reason we lost that game. 

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This team needs a franchise QB but I don't want to see another repeat of what we did to Cam.  Teams with a good O-Line can cover for some of the deficiencies a QB like TB has. 

I would focus on upgrading our O-line.  It's possible that 3 QBs are going before we pick and at this moment It appears we will be in the top 10 in the draft order.  We should draft O-line in round one if one of those quote unquote franchise QBs aren't available. 

What would be ideal is finding that franchise QB in round 2 or 3.  That QB that falls for whatever reason and turns out to be a stud.  It wouldn't be the 1st time a franchise QB was drafted in the later rounds. 

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o-line.  we've known we needed it for 10 years but every damn time we're like a dog who's paying attention and then SQUIRRELL SQUIRRELL. 

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Need to build that O line bad, have we learned nothing from the cam years? Besides, Teddy is a good enough QB to win it all given he has a proper line and a solid defense.

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You always go franchise QB if you don't have one. I would say Teddy is not a franchise QB. However, if a franchise caliber QB is NOT available, no reason to make a Christian Ponder type reach.

At that point, draft your board. Don't reach for OL. We already have one bad OT prospect we reached on currently on the roster.

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obviously if your guy at qb is there you take him, and then you still take o-line - reaching for neither.  

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The Cowboys built the line first. Ask them how well that is working out for them.

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I love how Scot acts like this line hasn't improved and has some young pieces on it .. Due to Hurney cough cough....

If somebody else had drafted and signed some of these players we would hear a different tone from alot of ppl here...

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3 hours ago, jfra78 said:

Need to build that O line bad, have we learned nothing from the cam years? Besides, Teddy is a good enough QB to win it all given he has a proper line and a solid defense.

So a perfect freaking team huh? That’s hot. Teddy needs everything perfect to win a Super Bowl. Jesus Christ. 

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I've got to say that o-line is the biggest factor. We win each of the games we've lost with better protection for Teddy/more rushing game push. 

Atlanta and New Orleans have invested heavily in their o-lines and Tampa is no slouch there either. Brees, Brady and Ryan are all among the top 10 passing yards leaders for NFL Careers... Brees and Brady are #1 and #2 (Ryan is #9). They are well protected and have o-lines that can impose their will on defenses.

In Carolina, we've had eight years of hyper mobile, hard to tackle Cam Newton and our o-line has been neglected as a reflection of this. And that, as we all well know, was a terrible idea when Cam was here. The Matt Kalil deal alone put us back three, four, maybe five years in developing an offensive line. Now we're behind the rest of the division in this area.

We tried to get better on the O-line this year, bringing in Okung on a trade (addition by subtraction of under performing Trai Turner) but before the season began we didn't even know if he would play or retire. Luckily he stayed on, but even if he somehow finishes out the season without going to IR, we have no guarantees he'll be willing to or able to play next season. Moton is solid, Daley is improving at guard, Reed is sadly JAG and Paradis is still someone I don't see as improving.

We can compete with Teddy as QB, but we could win with a better o-line.

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11 minutes ago, nctarheelreincarnated said:

So a perfect freaking team huh? That’s hot. Teddy needs everything perfect to win a Super Bowl. Jesus Christ. 

To win a super bowl you need a solid defense and a very good offense, even if you get a "franchise" QB.  Cam had a great defense and if we had a better O line we would have won a Superbowl in 2015

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1 minute ago, jfra78 said:

To win a super bowl you need a solid defense and a very good offense, even if you get a "franchise" QB.  Cam had a great defense and if we had a better O line we would have won a Superbowl in 2015

If you go back and look at say the last 6 teams that played in the super bowl and look how there olines were assembled.  I think you will see a pattern.

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