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John Fox on Armanti Edwards....

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lol 2 first round running backs actually producing

how surprising

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They're right about that pick being gold. With the break between rounds that spot usually gets a ton of trade offers. You can net a mid 2nd and 3rd easily, maybe even a future 1st rounder if some team wants a guy enough. Not to mention there's almost always 1st round talent sitting there at the top of the 2nd. All that for a huge project small school late round prospect changing positions. :arf:

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:lol:

You mean besides developing a backup Saints throw off into a pro-bowl, super-bowl, 112 rated QB with great stats for 5 years.

:lol:

And the first RB tandem in history to both have 1000 yards in a season

:lol:

Oh wow he utilized a guy who was developed by another coaching staff already. Jake Delhomme had been in the league for 5 years when Carolina picked him up and he had the exact same skillset and issues then as he did in 2008 when he flamed out. Is that a real argument? Jake is pure diamond in the rough (if you want to use that cliche) material. It's not like they crafted some castoff into Peyton Manning.

Let's talk about all the quarterbacks and wide receivers drafted by the Panthers that Fox and his staff developed, not RBs which require the least work of any college player to transition. That's kind of what I was getting at :). As Raging Bull remarked, a duo of first round RBs producing is hardly anything surprising.

Also Williams and Stewart were the first tandem to hit 1100 yards in a single season. There are plenty of tandems that have reached the 1000 yard mark.

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I'd say its necessary to wait until after the next full season before you pass judgment on a young kid who was hung out to dry this past year.

The kid has the athleticism and football ability to excel at this level, just needs coaching and persistence to get him there.

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I don't believe this BS about Fox refusing to coach a player. He's a bigger man than that, regardless of what some fans think or what some "insider" ( AKA, Marty Hurney) said.

And as far as him being more outspoken...he has always been that way in the off season. Have none of you ever listened to his off season interviews before? He is like this every single year on "Moving The Chains". It's only when the season starts that he clams up to reporters. How in the hell can any Panthers fan not know that by now?

It's not BS it's been reported a couple places. If your right then where was his ass when they were drafted??? This "Bigger Man" didn't even show up for the PC after the 1st day of the draft. When has Fox ever not been at a Draft day PC in 9 years???

You know what is funny. Some of you talk about if Fox had his way then Jimmy or AE wouldn't be drafted. It also is a good guess that if he had his way Jake would still be here throwing 20 int's in a panther uni.

Maybe you should listen too Jerry sometimes because he was right. Fox had a hard on for keeping old player around and not knowing when too cut the cord. Example Dwill and D foster, D foster and S davis, Jake and Matt Moore (cost us the playoffs) Richard Marshall and Ken lucas. Would have rode Mike Minter death if Mike didn't retire.

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Oh wow he utilized a guy who was developed by another coaching staff already. Jake Delhomme had been in the league for 5 years when Carolina picked him up and he had the exact same skillset and issues then as he did in 2008 when he flamed out. Is that a real argument? Jake is pure diamond in the rough (if you want to use that cliche) material. It's not like they crafted some castoff into Peyton Manning.

Let's talk about all the quarterbacks and wide receivers drafted by the Panthers that Fox and his staff developed, not RBs which require the least work of any college player to transition. That's kind of what I was getting at :). As Raging Bull remarked, a duo of first round RBs producing is hardly anything surprising.

Also Williams and Stewart were the first tandem to hit 1100 yards in a single season. There are plenty of tandems that have reached the 1000 yard mark.

Yeah 4 others just like I posted. You quoted me to soon.

So as long as we ignore the RBs and Steve Smith and the years of great offensive output and focus on Jake Delhomme who was a stud but was traded for...yeah good point.

Good Lord

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I love how people are hugging Fox's nuts when he's not even our Coach anymore.

I love the fact that you're still stupid even though john fox is gone.

What's your excuse now?

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Yeah 4 others just like I posted. You quoted me to soon.

So as long as we ignore the RBs and Steve Smith and the years of great offensive output and focus on Jake Delhomme who was a stud but was traded for...yeah good point.

Good Lord

Steve Smith wasn't drafted by Fox he develop under George Seifert crew.

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The panthers had the most pass plays that went for 40+ yards in the entire league back in 2003. Entering the playoffs, the panthers were the most balanced team offensively in the league.

That being said...pretty sure that is what offensive cords are for.

But, don't let me stop the hating game.

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Yeah 4 others just like I posted. You quoted me to soon.

So as long as we ignore the RBs and Steve Smith and the years of great offensive output and focus on Jake Delhomme who was a stud but was traded for...yeah good point.

Good Lord

lol yeah you just cling to Williams, Stewart, and Smith like a liferaft. Honestly if I was in your shoes I'd be going off about the offensive line right about now instead of clinging to three skill position guys.

I mean you did watch the Panthers in 2006, 2007, 2009, and 2010 right? Also Jake Delhomme was never a "stud". He was a solid quarterback with a propensity for pulling unlikely victories out of his ass for two or three seasons, tops.

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Yeah 4 others just like I posted. You quoted me to soon.

So as long as we ignore the RBs and Steve Smith and the years of great offensive output and focus on Jake Delhomme who was a stud but was traded for...yeah good point.

Good Lord

only 4 good years of "great offensive output" out of 9, with one of those years without a running game and another without a passing game. 1 of those years without a winning record (so you can drop that to 3 if you wanted to). Only 2 years of balance.

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Why the fug would anyone even ask John Fox about a 2nd year player with a team he is no longer affiliated with?

"So Mike Shanahan, how do you feel about Elvis Dumervil's injury rehab progress?"

"Who gives a poo?"

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when i think of great offensive output, i usually think of offenses that were ranked higher than 10th in overall yards in their best season

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Most guys don't look good when they go through a rookie season without much help from their coaches (which is what Panther insiders would tell you happened with Edwards).

:yesnod:

I'd expect him to say something more diplomatic, especially coming from someone who made an entire career of using a lot of words and never said anything meaningful. How about "we saw something in AE and I'm sure Carolina is still excited about his potential"? How hard is that?

All this does is further hurt the confidence of a kid who's struggling to make a team he himself brought in. Total dick move.

Agree completely. He had no business making that comment. Makes me pull for AE to make it even more.

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