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It's not ridiculous. The fact that some have such a hard time believing it is the ridiculous part of this. It's common sense by looking at his contract that the Panther's don't want anything to do with his option bonus or the non-exercise fee.

Rivera has already said that his role is going to be diminished, so he clearly isn't worth his contract over the next three seasons. So Paycut or Cut. Football common sense dictates that he takes a pay cut or is no longer a Panther.

You've been going from thread to thread with this nonsense.

If you want to say he should take a pay cut, that's fine, but to outright insinuate that he would refuse to do so based on nothing at all after all he has done for this franchise is just disrespectful. Show a little class man.

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You've been going from thread to thread with this nonsense.

If you want to say he should take a pay cut, that's fine, but to outright insinuate that he would refuse to do so based on nothing at all after all he has done for this franchise is just disrespectful. Show a little class man.

 

I haven't said he wasn't going to take the paycut, just if he doesn't take the paycut to remove the option and exercise fee, He will be cut. It's all I'm saying. 

 

It's a business cutting a player isn't disrespectful, it's a part of the business side of things. Smith would be the first to tell you that getting cut is just a part of being a football player at his age. 

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I haven't said he wasn't going to take the paycut, just if he doesn't take the paycut to remove the option and exercise fee, He will be cut. It's all I'm saying.

If you cut him who do you replace him with? We're not just talking about statistically either.

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If you cut him who do you replace him with? We're not just talking about statistically either.

 

That's the biggest question mark of the whole situation. I honestly don't know who they would replace him with, I hope he takes a pay cut that doesn't feature the fee or option. Luckily the team has quite a bit of time to make a decision and to see if they can find someone in FA that would fit what they want from a vet.

 

They have to make a decision by July 1st  for his option bonus and then July 30th for the non-exercise fee if I remember correctly. 

 

 

So plenty of time to figure out what the plan is and who they are trying to bring in before they decide on Smith taking a new contract. I'm sure talks would start soon, but a decision would be a ways away. 

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It doesn't make any sense to me to cut him just to sign some random vet anyway. Restructure, or try to get him to take a pay cut. But outright cutting him, and simply acting as if any guy off the street will step in as an adequate replacement, and expect there to not be a drop off in our offense which was already in the bottom half of the league last year, is at best operating like a kid playing franchise mode in Madden.

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I've already accepted Hardy is not coming back. We have holes to fill on our team. We need to build a complete team before we even think about signing Hardy back.

 

i don't see any way that Greg Hardy barring injury isn't starting for the Carolina Panthers week 1

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I see a bunch of panthers doing this. the ones that could re structure have huge money contracts. I think they are less selfish than we think..

 

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If Gross retires, Smitty might also.  I think retiring helps us out.  Someone might know better than me however.

 

I would promise Smitty some sort of Front Office or coaching gig to see if he will retire rather than cutting.  He won't go somewhere else to start over.

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Losing both Jordan Gross, and Steve Smith in the same offseason would be disastrous.

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i don't see any way that Greg Hardy barring injury isn't starting for the Carolina Panthers week 1

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Losing both Jordan Gross, and Steve Smith in the same offseason would be disastrous.

And that might be on top of losing Greg Hardy...

I'm not helping, am I? :unsure:

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Losing both Jordan Gross, and Steve Smith in the same offseason would be disastrous.

 

i don't think it would be disastrous. i do think it would be tough.

 

in doing it we wouldn't be just losing two very solid players, we'd be losing two leaders and the team would take a hit on both counts.

 

here's the thing, though...they are both replaceable as players and leaders. we'll find good tackles to handle RT and LT, i mean sure...drafting and starting one isn't ideal in my book because it's very hard for rookies to come in and not play like they are on skates, but i think still that we'd be alright. i think we'll get a decent influx of talent in the draft and in FA to help that OL on the outside.

 

at WR...i think we'll do the same. we'll have a really good FA or two brought in and then pick another one or two up in the draft.

 

i'm more worried about the OL than anything at this moment because i think that it will be harder to pick up that talent, but it can be done and i believe that gettleman knows his hog mollies.

 

now regarding the leader aspect...like i said, it would be tough but people will step up. they usually do. the culture is really solid on that team now and i think that it's prime for someone to step up. will it be some outsider? i don't know, but it could be. i wasn't expecting mitchell to rise up the way he did. will be a rookie? i don't know, but we've seen a couple rookies rise up as a leader really quickly. it could be any number of guys who rise up.

 

point is, we might take a little step backwards in some regards, but i think the team is in really good hands and we've got quite a bit of talent existing on the team to keep this team strong.

 

whether we lose gross and/or smitty this year won't keep us from having another winning season this year and won't be the thing that keeps us from missing the playoffs if that happens. we aren't some fragile house of cards waiting for a collapse. we're just a young team growing and part of that growing is going to be a changing of the guard.

 

we'll be ok.

 

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i don't think it would be disastrous. i do think it would be tough.

 

in doing it we wouldn't be just losing two very solid players, we'd be losing two leaders and the team would take a hit on both counts.

 

here's the thing, though...they are both replaceable as players and leaders. we'll find good tackles to handle RT and LT, i mean sure...drafting and starting one isn't ideal in my book because it's very hard for rookies to come in and not play like they are on skates, but i think still that we'd be alright. i think we'll get a decent influx of talent in the draft and in FA to help that OL on the outside.

 

at WR...i think we'll do the same. we'll have a really good FA or two brought in and then pick another one or two up in the draft.

 

i'm more worried about the OL than anything at this moment because i think that it will be harder to pick up that talent, but it can be done and i believe that gettleman knows his hog mollies.

 

now regarding the leader aspect...like i said, it would be tough but people will step up. they usually do. the culture is really solid on that team now and i think that it's prime for someone to step up. will it be some outsider? i don't know, but it could be. i wasn't expecting mitchell to rise up the way he did. will be a rookie? i don't know, but we've seen a couple rookies rise up as a leader really quickly. it could be any number of guys who rise up.

 

point is, we might take a little step backwards in some regards, but i think the team is in really good hands and we've got quite a bit of talent existing on the team to keep this team strong.

 

whether we lose gross and/or smitty this year won't keep us from having another winning season this year and won't be the thing that keeps us from missing the playoffs if that happens. we aren't some fragile house of cards waiting for a collapse. we're just a young team growing and part of that growing is going to be a changing of the guard.

 

we'll be ok.

 

 

Our offense was already in the bottom of the league last year. Now remove our starting LT, and Steve Smith, and well, I think you can imagine. Problem is we aren't going to be able to sign clear upgrades for them either, not if we are planning on retaining Greg Hardy's services.

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Steve Smith will not leave this close to a super bowl. I'm sure he is willing to restructure after the draft depending how the team. Looks

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Our offense was already in the bottom of the league last year. Now remove our starting LT, and Steve Smith, and well, I think you can imagine. Problem is we aren't going to be able to sign clear upgrades for them either, not if we are planning on retaining Greg Hardy's services.

The problem is you're seeing the name Steve Smith & acting like he's the freak who shredded the league in '05. He's not. He's a 35-year old WR who is short, can't get separation, drops catchable passes, & gets tired easily.

And stop acting like Steve Smith is Ray Lewis in the locker room. He's a veteran voice & is a leader but them survive without him.

Thomas Davis is the heart & soul of the team. He is the leader.

And frankly, until Smith is gone Cam will never be the leader of the offense & team.

Is Steve still a good WR & a leader who Carolina needs? Most definitely. But only if he takes a pay cut. He is not worth his cap number.

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