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  2. These WR putting one hand out to try to catch a ball. If I was coaching this team it’s where I’d start. XL and TMac should be attacking footballs at their highest point with two hands. It should look like rebounding. With those two WR that’s what it needs to look like until they’ve shown mastery of that skill.
  3. this is called gaslighting with bad information. they do not have 28 deep completions, and they are not top 10 in yards and completions going deep lol. did you ask AI do pull that info for you? This is the problem w/ relying on AI. It doesn't do a good job.
  4. Bryce was ruined. Tepper has issues, probably just 'newer owner making the usual mistakes' type thing. Rinse and repeat on the next issue. Very general and without specific details. Look at sone stats and base thr blah off of that and the generalities floating around. The fact we have won 5 games is going to skew it all to way too opportunistic IMO. Just under .500 how bad could it still be?
  5. His hands are tied obviously. Morgan and Canales both have to kiss the ring.
  6. This keeping Bryce secure and happy sh%t has gotta stop. Dalton is like a security blanket for him. He is a grown man with 32 million in the bank and can walk away today with no worries. If Dalton has a broken thumb then IR him. If Young cant handle the situation without having a crutch then he shouldn't be here. Put Andy on IR and let him retire. Put White in and open up the damn playbook. Bryce can walk around on the sidelines and mope.
  7. Agreed need a proven commodity as a bridge QB and bring in one of these young guys to compete.
  8. Panthers now average 0.32 ASS on deep routes (league avg: 0.28) and a 55% open rate on deep targets (league avg: 52%). They've racked up 28 deep completions (top-10) for 892 yards (8th), a far cry from 2024's bottom-5 finish. Young's deep accuracy sits at 48% (league avg: 46%), with 8 deep TDs (tied for 7th). Key Panthers WRs on Deep Routes (Through Week 10) Roster shakeup: Adam Thielen was traded post-cuts; Jalen Coker is on IR (injured early); Hunter Renfrow was re-signed as a slot option but sees occasional deep looks. McMillan and Xavier Legette (2024 1st-rounder) form the core vertical duo .Team Total: 71 deep targets (12th in NFL); 30 completions (9th); 958 deep yards (7th). Strength: McMillan's addition has flipped the script—85th percentile in single-coverage separation (per PFF). Legette's growth adds balance. Weakness: Depth beyond the top two is thin; Renfrow provide YAC but not elite separation (group ranks 18th in deep YAC). Comparison to Other Teams Panthers WRs are now solid mid-tier, a huge leap from 2024's bottom-5. McMillan has vaulted them past teams like the Giants/Patriots, but they're not yet elite (e.g., trailing Eagles/Chiefs). (Min. 65 deep targets/team.) Sources: PFF Receiving/Separation Reports (2025), Next Gen Stats, FantasyPros Advanced WR Metrics
  9. Vs. League Avg: Panthers were -9% in open rate and -0.08 in ASS on deep routes. Only the Commanders (41%) and Giants (40%) fared worse. Route-Specific: On go/vertical routes, Panthers had a 37% separation rate (league avg: 49%; per PFF route study). Slants/seams were better (48%), but pure deep balls exposed the lack of speed/elusiveness. Context: League-wide deep attempts dropped 8% in 2024 (2,359 total; fewest since 2009), but Panthers attempted just 81 (bottom-10), partly due to poor separation forcing checkdowns. Why It Matters for QB Play (Bryce Young Tie-In) This ties directly to the interview analysis: Canales cited "chemistry/timing" for deep issues, but the root is WR separation. Bryce's deep accuracy was 38% (league avg: 46%), but when WRs generated ≥2 yards separation, it jumped to 52%
  10. I think this year was; Bryce succeeds or a natural tank followed by a flush.
  11. Kyle has made j8mmy g, Purdy and now Jones to a degree all look good. Im sensing a common denominator here
  12. Agree. Our QB room is like it is by design. A really bad design, but intentional nonetheless. If Bryce's play last year earned him this year, and he needed the corpse of the red-rocket as his safety blanket, I'm kind of glad we didn't waste any more cap or draft capital on QB.
  13. I'm ok with Tet over Warren. Warren has looked great but he doesn't have to play with Bryce.
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  15. Sorry but everything this team does regarding the QB position makes zero logical sense and it just screams Tepper is still meddling. Just because we’re not hearing about/from him doesn’t mean anything has changed internally.
  16. I think both angles could have factored. I mean, we have a conversation about it and I say “well Andy knows the offense and is a positive for Bryce” and you say “plus, if we bring someone who would really compete we may be making a problem for ourselves” and I say “fair point, let’s go with Andy”. edit: this assumes there was a Bryce is the unquestioned starter mindset which I do assume myself.
  17. I was in on Mac Jones after his first start for the 49ers, but upon some reflection and early replies from this board caused me to think there are some problems: 1. he doesn't have a strong arm either but can put some zip on short accurate passes; we would have the same problem with him as we do with Bryce in not being able to stretch the field vertically; 2. he's under contract next year so we would have to give up some draft capital to get him; and 3. is Mac actually a good qb now or is he a product of Kyle Shanahan and his offensive scheme (neither of which will be in Carolina next year)?
  18. Canales gave a real "type poo" answer to that question lmaoo
  19. Reasonable. I do like the idea of revisiting the how we found Jake model. For a couple of reasons.
  20. There's no real thing as a QB competition anymore. Hell, the one thing Rhule did right was trying to make Sam or Baker earn the #1 spot but all it did was dilute practice reps with the ones and caused excuses for failure.
  21. It’s the only sense I can make of it… or, they took BY’s ‘resurgence’ to finish last season as a sign that he had taken the next step and that Andy had played a big role in his maturation and keeping Andy would fit that narrative. The latter was my take when the season started, but I can’t help but come up with another possibility with the current state of affairs.
  22. I definitely think we should target a backup, under the age of around 28 or so. Someone we could get 5 or 6 years out of preferably. If they were the real deal.
  23. wasn't broken enough to pump fake the ball
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