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Yes but the rules are always different in the end zone. PI, sacks, penalties, etc. That's why I don't bristle at it. The end zone almost always has a different set of rules for just about everything.

My point is that there shouldn't be any penalty. Everywhere else on the field a fumble out of bounds is no big deal. Same thing should apply in the endzone. Nowhere else kn the field can the ball change possession on a fumble without being recovered inbounds by the defense.

Well Tepper let Rhule dump Cam for his QB. Bridgewater was not the answer. From there it was downhill. I always thought that though Cam was limited he was still a better QB than anyone we picked up. I would have rather drafted a QB and learn behind Cam and eventually take over. After Rhule screwed it up, Tepper was going to pick his QB. He knew nothing about QB in the NFL. Too many Heisman QBs don't pan out in the NFL. Many won't acknowledge it but this forum was full of Tank for Young when he was in college. I wasn't one of them.

Not necessarily, but there is a tendency for west coast teams to be out of sorts on trip east for a kickoff that would be 10am their time.

I don't really like giving the the offense the ball at the 1. Either the defense did their job, and caused a turnover, or the offensive player was an idiot and dropped the ball while going into the end zone. Another 1 that gets complaints is the pass interference penalty being a spot penalty in the NFL, instead of 15 yards. Defenses would be incentivized to commit fouls on every pass over 15 yards. That said, it is annoying that a real strategy is to go fishing for PI calls.

Unfortunately for you, nobody in the organization knows who you are or cares about what you want. He is still gonna be on the team and you’re still gonna be screaming and crying about it

They are sluggish on east coast?

The only real thing going in our favor is that the Rams are making the cross-country trip for a 1pm kickoff. I do not think that will be a significant enough hindrance to them. Instead of mid-30s, maybe they only score in the high 20s.

Yes but the end zone is actually different. It's the same with kickoffs. Basically there is no actual penalty for being wildly careless with the ball and a potential albeit unlikely avenue for offensive fugery. I think if you change it, make it the same rule as a punt/kickoff going out of the end zone or into the end zone. Same result. That way you penalize the offense but not enough to change possession.

I don't absolve Canales. He benched Bryce last year but now all of a sudden he can't? Doesn't make sense. He is as guilty as the rest.

I think he's trending for a good culture but he tries to be cute with the game planning, and it is costing us games.

Offenses ball at the 1. Pretty much what happens everywhere else on the field when the ball is fumbled out of bounds. The ball is given to the possessing team at the spot of the fumble.

I think Fitterer was ultimately fired over Frank and other mistakes…. all the other Bryce people are still here. Morgan. Caldwell. And both those dudes have more sway than Canales

We're home that's about it. It would have to be a perfect day. I just don't see it. Then again Young has a game that wants us to run him out of town and the next game he does something to make you think. I don't see it.

Only way the Panthers win is if the Rams pull a Packers and don’t take the Panthers seriously. Panthers have too many backups playing on defense and do not have enough firepower on offense to score points.

Yeah but what do you do is the question? Boot them back to the 20?

What NFL level coach would come to Carolina to take over this team knowing Bryce is still the QB? The new HC would have to promised he could pick his own QB….however there is a recent Panthers history of that promise not being fulfilled and that HC was fired after 10-games. i also think the interest in this job would be limited due to Tepper . i would rather stick with Canales and get a new QB then bring in a new HC and have the same QB.

Canales has done a great job, especially with the “team culture” considering the handicap at QB. Bryce is a coach killer, and I confidently believe that when we get a decent QB this team will be in a good place. As an OC, yea Canales has some faults. I think he’s one of those types that are a better HC than coordinator. But still being able to wring water out of the stone that is Bryce Young had been a miracle in and of itself.

I'm not sure what we can do the backups will really have to step it up

I can't say that I agree with the "can't fire him because he's mediocre." He has actually largely been more bad than mediocre. But, you are spot on with the job being even less attractive than it was before. Most candidates are going to turn down interviews with us even without that move. With another head coach being canned, you are probably basically stuck dumpster diving even deeper than when got you Dave Canales.

They forfeit.

Honestly, same script as usual. Effective ball control offense and get pressure on Stafford early and often. If you can't do both, it's gonna be a long day.

Yea it looks bad on paper, they don’t even try to run the ball anymore they just pass all over people and half our D seems to be hurt

I look at it like this. Canales made his reputation as being responsible for the development of WRs and QBs prior to getting here. Supposedly that's why he was hired. After 2 season's the overwhelming evidence indicates that his reputation is in fact all bull. Those 2 positions have turned out to be the weakest links on the offense. Now I understand he cannot make Young an nfl qb but he is in part responsible for the depth chart and in game decisions. But I do blame him for the lack of development and depth of the receivers. Overall I think that Dan would be better suited cutting his buddy Dave lose and finding a better coach and let that guy find his qb. Or else he will go down with Dave.

If their team bus gets lost