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IMO being a great backup QB isn't about what you can do on the field its what they do to get the main guy ready. And I think Andy has been great at that

Look I've been trying to be delicate but this entire thread is nothing more than an exercise in vigorous turd polishing. I'm perfectly willing to participate in optimistic discourse regarding our young players but what's going on with aging Andy Dalton is homerism gone wild. He is objectively bad. Plain and simple. And he was such in his final season with the Saints. In one game against the Cardinals that season he threw 2 pick sixes. He was very bad last season after that mirage of a win against the Raiders. It is what it is.

That means he is an average backup depending on the use of the word “easily”. All 32 starters are clearly better, but are more than 18 backup QBs better? It’s not that much of a stretch to say that IMO.

Currently playing the Thunder right now. I guess it says it all that playoffs in the Summer League are a high point these days. But we'll take what we can get.

Pooing posts over Andy Dalton. Yeah that sounds about right for the fanbase

He’s been fun to watch.

Good read! Thanks.

Imagine typing this with a straight face.

Soon to be 37 in the fall 0-4 career playoff record. Actually when you get down to it he is a very fitting "mentor" for our own QB for all the wrong reasons considering we're still looking to end our own drought going on 8 years now. Bruh we need to open the huddle to rival fans again. This echo chamber poo is officially out of pocket.

Top 50? Based on what?

He's not a starter but he's completely fine as a backup still. Top 50 QB in the league EASILY.

I mean, even their own propoganda videos showed how much he was involved for years. Not to mention the umpteen articles mentioning it from "sources." The narrative, which is likely somewhat true at the bare minimum, didn't pop up out of thin air. Snyder had that rep. Turns out.....100% accurate.

He's a great guy. In his prime he was a respectable starter. But now at this stage of his career he is an awful QB. This lip service is ridiculous.

Anyone who watched the blueprint knows we think highly of Nic. Just get the deal done and get him out there for camp.

was reading Darin Gantt this week and he noted these stats "Andy Dalton is 26th on the all-time passing yards list (39,500), ahead of Hall of Famers Jim Kelly, Steve Young, YA Tittle, Troy Aikman, and many more. He's also 26th on the all-time touchdown pass list (253), and the next one he throws ties him with Dan Freaking Fouts (254). He grew up in Texas idolizing Aikman, and has about 90 more touchdowns than the former Cowboys Hall of Famer (165)." https://www.panthers.com/news/ask-the-old-guy-ready-to-get-to-training-camp-tetairoa-mcmillan-bryce-young-fantasy-football-ai-hot-dogs pretty nice having him for a back up. Hope he wants to play another year or two

It's too early to tell. If he's stepped back that's a good thing obviously. But to say it was greatly overblown is rather ridiculous. This is the same man who held a press conference after firing Reich where he did virtually all the talking. Seems he's at least learned from all that though. We can only hope it will last.

I feel that the whole Tepper is to involved in running the team thing was greatly overblown. IMO, Tepper's biggest mistake was hiring bad coaches and bad GM's to run things. So far at least, results under Morgan and Canales appear to be better, but we will see.

100% vs 90% isn't a massive difference or disadvantage. 2 million won't make or break a team

All I know is that the game is a lot more interesting when running backs arent an afterthought.

So just like all the things you constantly attempt to "read between the lines" with and post said opinions pretending they are stone cold facts?

Its not hard to figure out teams overcompensate to try and stop whatever the current fad is and right now everyone GOT SMALLER AND FASTER on defense, the pendulum is simply swinging back to what that defenses weakness is.

Who here remembers this one? Two and a half years ago following what was one of the ugliest displays of QB play any Panthers or Saints fan had witnessed in many years. Not one person here would have been wanting to sign Andy Dalton to a contract. But once he signed with the Panthers and became Bryce Young's backup suddenly the narrative changed. Now somehow Panthers fans regard him as a top backup. Comical.

I get what you're saying but I'm a proponent of drafting the best players and then getting them into camp and figuring out where they fit. Passing a better player for a better "fit" just isn't a good idea. That's how you end up drafting Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan because you already had Clyde Drexler on the roster.

I am guessing that he signs for 4 years, $8.4m with $6m guaranteed. I do not see Morgan giving in easily, and these players are losing leverage. I am a Scourton fan and I see him as a real sleeper pick who will be a better pro than college player. They may need to address the rookie salary scale to include caps on guaranteed money--