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It was actually two. One last year when Bryce was benched and one in late 2023. And it's his prerogative to do that. But going around here acting as if his is the only rational unbiased word on the situation after doing so and pretending he never did so is certainly odd.

I'll be surprised if they pull a rabbit out of their ass and finish more than 4 wins.

Doesnt have to be a QB, but if it is a QB definitely make sure he has the measurables before anything else.

4 wins was my prediction, but I thought there was a chance with the right breaks and a little luck, to maybe reach 6 or 7. I kind of feel 4 might be stretching my optimism a little too far. That said, it is a crazy easy slate of games, except we are crazy bad, and crazy inept and crazy incapable.

Tell me again why you started a Bryce sucks thread last year

I hate being a fan of this team.

You are right. Just for the current 2025 Panthers I feel is about the only solution towards a correct path. it may help the OL too since they are struggling as well. There's nothing the Panthers do well....might as well try the olde dink and dunk method until its at this same poor level.

This, almost bought tickets and changed my mind. Glad I did

Until the defense drops in to soft prevent defense, which is when it works. I.e. when it started working in the Cardinals game.

Dink and dunk cant work all the time. As soon as the secondary catches on then you are screwed. It also cancels out the run game.

Step 1: Hire Luke to come back and teach both offensive and defensive coaches how to watch tape. Step 2: Pray.

Or bust WRs. Looks like we finally got one right after drafting 3 busts high the previous 3 years.

And look at how much we are paying the oline

So guys in the NFL are bigger than guys in college?

Canales might end up being a dud but there's nothing he or any other head coach is going to be able to do in order to make Bryce Young taller or not have mediocre at best arm talent.

Is Canales really a “QB whisperer” or is Bryce just not that guy. I’m giving him a little bit of a break due to injuries around him and some questionable play designs. I don’t know, maybe this team is just cursed and we will never replace Cam. We still haven’t replaced Gross, Kalil, Smitty, Luke…

This was the risk with spending what $150 million in free agency on two OL? We should have been focused on the draft. Now whether the OL is terrible bad or mid we still have the highest amount of salary cap dedicated to the position group by far. And it's only going to go up when we sign Icky to an extension. Instead of trading up for injured running backs maybe we should have been drafting OL.

The Panthers are a bad football franchise. We have young receivers who are imperfect. We have had injuries along the OL. But Bryce Young is a downgrade from every single QB that has started for this team since Cam Newton's throwing arm died back in late 2018. And we have invested an absurd amount of resources in order to improve this offense. Multiple things can be true at one time.

My last 3 posts have been this- The biggest letdown is OL, the highest paid OL, the one unit with real talent. They have struggle with simple biltzs and stunts, thus BY is under the gun and forced to deal with too many hurries and pressures. Whole team needs to play better, OL is right at the top along with BY. Now with Mays and zalad......ugh it maybe a upgrade given hunt was playing with bum foot and cobert looked bad too. They need to play better for Hubbard and dowdle too, too many plays Ive seen 4 defenders meeting the RB before the LOS.

You can blame Bryce for a lot of things. But if you look around the league outside of maybe 2-4. You can blame most QBs on Sunday for something. He can barely rent a car throwing to guys who can barely by a drink with a coach born in the 80s. What you think it was going to look like?

Blah blah blah blah. We don't need a huddle Steve Smith.

Yall talk poo about the WRs being ass and then blame the QB Yall talk poo about the center being ass and then blame the QB The owner, the coach, the DC, everyone on the team is ass and you blame the QB. You don’t ever ask yourself if all of that is ass when the hell is the QB ever going to be successful. When is the last time a QB was successful here? Darnold and Baker both led teams to playoffs after leaving here. YOUR TEAM SUCKS. The reality is that your team is going to suck no matter if you put Brady on it because it’s a bad football team. Buckle up it’s going to be bad for a while.

The whole team minus Horn, Hubbard, Tmac, and Jackson is at fault. When 95% of the team is sucking, the QB is at fault too. So is the whole coaching staff. Just A #1 overall QB should be able to lift up the teammates to higher levels. Struggle city for everyone.

Basically all I've gotten from you in about two days worth of responses is nothing is Bryce Young's fault and you expect absolute perfection from his offensive teammates while holding him to little or no standard despite being a #1 pick and the face of the franchise.

I mean I'm not happy with the lack of rushing production either but when exactly are we supposed to establish a formidable run game when we are usually down in the box score early due to Bryce's turnovers and the defense has no fear of our passer pushing the ball downfield?