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I only really watch Panthers ball, so not up on his game. I remember a time where a large number of us around here wanted to bring in Minshew to see what he had. Sometimes there are a lot of factors to consider. Clearly Mayfield and Darnold weren't fitting in as well here for whatever reason. I could see Minshew just needed the right fit, based on what little I know about him.

And yet. Gardner Minshew at 36.

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Just for clarification...are we saying he is a ginger a good or bad thing? That's my people. Curious either way. I collect haters, but would love for the narrative to change for my more sensitive ginger kids out there. @ForJimmy@frankw

Nice.How many guaranteed

#43 on this list. Just sayin' https://www.nfl.com/news/ranking-all-59-nfl-starting-quarterbacks-from-2024-lamar-jackson-or-josh-allen-at-no-1

There it is! Now just waiting on the details....

I squirted

Don’t get my hopes up…… don’t get my hopes up

I want to be a fanboy of XL so bad. He’s gotta produce, though.

No I get it. I think I was just saying top 50 isn’t really anything to hang your hat on. He is a ginger too. Good point. I’m not here to die on an Andy Dalton hill.

I don't think he is very likely to be traded pre-season and even less likely to be at a reasonable price.

Lol. I mean looking at rosters. It's rough out there.

It’s summer league, so take it with a grain of salt. But have to admit the team has played really well and been fun to watch. Agreed, take what we can get.

There are a very few number of legitimate NFL level QB's on this planet. I'm not saying he is not capable of being a backup still given that very limited number. All I'm saying is some people can choose to look at the reality glass half full or glass half empty. I'm relatively trying to remain near the middle. I do appreciate that he has experience with which he can pass on to Bryce. But I think his resume is being put on a level that does not line up. It's interesting you mentioned Flacco. I'd take him mentoring the Panthers starting QB in a heartbeat. At least Joe has won in the playoffs. And won a Super Bowl to boot. He might have only had success largely in that season but man what a run he led that offense on. I can respect that. I'm not saying I don't like or respect Andy. I do like him. And he's a ginger. But as a local fan who has seen losing losing losing mediocrity and a few very short lived seasons of potential greatness. Give me any ounce of greatness every time. Then we can hang our hat on mentoring at some level. That's my position and all I'm trying to convey. Thanks for the chat.

Ok the first paragraph made me laugh. You think he is washed and I understand it. I just don’t think it’s outlandish for someone to think he is in the top 50 in the league. It’s not really a compliment but just means he is an average backup. I’d put him in the Joe Flacco category personally. Old starter with tons of experience that can come in and run your offense if needed, but not someone you want playing more than 3 games or so.

Anyways. $110 million in career earnings for Andy with the new contract he signed with us. He is laughing all the way to the bank and then some regardless. Good for him.

IMO being a great backup QB isn't about what you can do on the field its what they do to get the main guy ready. And I think Andy has been great at that

Look I've been trying to be delicate but this entire thread is nothing more than an exercise in vigorous turd polishing. I'm perfectly willing to participate in optimistic discourse regarding our young players but what's going on with aging Andy Dalton is homerism gone wild. He is objectively bad. Plain and simple. And he was such in his final season with the Saints. In one game against the Cardinals that season he threw 2 pick sixes. He was very bad last season after that mirage of a win against the Raiders. It is what it is.

That means he is an average backup depending on the use of the word “easily”. All 32 starters are clearly better, but are more than 18 backup QBs better? It’s not that much of a stretch to say that IMO.

Currently playing the Thunder right now. I guess it says it all that playoffs in the Summer League are a high point these days. But we'll take what we can get.

Pooing posts over Andy Dalton. Yeah that sounds about right for the fanbase

He’s been fun to watch.