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All people (that get millions) had to do was watch that LSU game against Bryce in 2022. What they did in that game was the closest thing Bryce was going to see every Sunday, and he struggled mightily. It's kind of ironic, that game was the most Bryce game ever. He threw a redzone int early, it took him 51 passes to even crack 300 yds, he held onto the ball too long, he couldn't see down the middle because LSU was busting up the middle, he short armed a bunch of throws, etc. You would think our scouts and FO that get paid millions would have easily saw this red flag, yet they chose to ignore it and based their decision of his backyard football highlight tape lol Meanwhile CJ Stroud faced a defense that was going to be similar to what he was going to see every Sunday and passed with flying colors.

My dislike of Bryce comes not from him but from the Truthers who continue to think he can become something he never will. 3 years in and he still needs MORE time? Nah, by year three you should not still have questions whether you will be the long term starter.

Exactly. This has decimated the fanbase as well. There’s wayyyy less excitement even for a year where we have “improved”

It's about his playing style. I pointed all this put leading up to the draft. He'd usually take the snap from shotgun at Bama and immediately drop back another 5+ yards after that and then just kinda freewheel standing square to the LOS surveying the field. That can't world at the NFL for several reasons. 1) you can't create a picket that deep at the NFL level. NFL edge rushers are too good. 2) Standing square to the LOS like Bryce did now once you see where you want to throw, you have to flip your hips to get in position to deliver the throw. That means both your receiver needs to be wide open and you need ample protection. Not happening in the NFL. 3) On all of his deep throws he needed to be able to step up and through the throw to generate power. That rarely happens in the NFL. It happened recently against Atlanta and he played great but that type if time and room to operate just rarely happens on Sundays. Bryce was IMO always a prototypical great college player who just doesn't translate to the NFL from a talent and stylistic perspective. I don't know how he fooled football people into thinking otherwise.

Seems so weird considering his college career, like obviously being a great Pro player is much harder but still how do you go from Heisman winning greatest Alabama QB this era to worst starting QB in the league, I don't get it. I know he had an injury his last year in college but that shouldn't effect his "processing" skills the way something has

LOL I just think it's funny how much you hate a pretty likeable player. Yeah, Arch has a much higher talent ceiling but he's doing less with a lot better surrounding talent. If I had to win a college game tomorrow and was picking between Haynes or Arch I'm taking Haynes all day everyday. He's not a great passer, but he's honestly a considerably better passer than Arch right now and he's the tougher runner. It's an easy call.

Not a Cali kid, he just went to Stanford. He was born and raised in Colorado.

Wife? I'm not stupid enough to sign up for giving someone half my poo when I'm tired of her. But if I was married, I would certainly hope my wife picked a Manning (any Manning) over a shitty version of Haynes King.

Burns was fine if we traded him for 2 1sts and a 2nd. Moore was also fine if we traded him for GB’s 1st (pick 15, I think) instead of throwing him in on Young. CMC was dumb because he would have been a great helper for a rookie QB and we got basically nothing for him. The other benefit for trading everyone in 2022 is that we don’t finish with pick 9 and actually get a spot to pick Stroud or Young without trading. No chances we’d luck into deciding on a QB in 2024. Now, Fitterer likely fugs it all up anyway but it doesn’t change the fact that we were offered great to obscene value for Burns and Moore. Giving away CMC and Moore as extras for Young and getting a 2nd for Burns was stupid.

Ben Johnson refused to interview with us. He knew how dysfunctional our franchise was

Sorry he banged your wife and all but he's still a better college QB right now than Arch and doing more with a lot less supporting cast.

I'm not talking about the NFL either. I'm talking any level. Other than Navy, Army and Air Force, there is literally not a single coach or GM who would agree with your assessment. Haynes King is a RB dressed up as a QB. He's lucky he goes to a school where their history is the nonsensical wishbone, option bullshit. Arch Manning is (currently) a below average QB (given his name), who is still a way better QB than Haynes King will ever be. At any level.

I'm not talking about the NFL. I'm talking about college. I wouldn't spend a draft pick on either one of them in '26.

"He's small but he's a little mobile" 12 seconds later in the clip "he's not a big athlete but he's got some mobility". I what world does he need to say both those sentences within a 30 second clip. He does that repetitive filler poo all the time. I can't stand to listen to him

And why not one more for good measure

He just does enough for this FO to let him keep the job. That’s what frustrates me the most. He’s a tease

And 10 times out of 10 you'd be an unemployed Head Coach or General Manager. But it would be fun to watch Taysom Hill v.2.0 play QB for you, when he should be playing TE or RB.

Terrible red zone decision from Reed ends this one.

Because I wasn't watching that game and yeah, I'd take Haynes King 10 times put of 10 over the current version of Arch. I've never said he's the best QB in the country, I've said he's the best QB in the ACC. Because he is. That's not a screaming endorsement for ACC QBs. But yeah, I like the dude. He plays his ass off.

He slid in the first half on one run where he could've gotten more yardage and I told my buddy "if I'm the Texas coach I'm telling Arch you're not a slider, when you run I need you getting ever yard you can". I don't think he's slid since. When you suck at throwing you better not be sliding.

Frank didn't want Bryce. What Frank wanted to be back as a HC in the NFL. His eagerness got him David Tepper who was (is?) a micromanaging owner. That owner wanted some boy wonder QB from Bama and Frank's stint as the Panthers HC was over pretty much before it got started.

I mean a 10 year old playing madden would be a better GM than Scott Fitterer. Worst GM in the history of the NFL.

You were telling me King was the best QB in the ACC / in America in this very thread. You're shitting on Arch Manning, who is ten times the QB Haynes King is. Just wondering why you didn't trash Haynes King all afternoon, when he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn when it counted.

Arch "Riley Leonard" Manning

I was at the past two games. Nice to see some of these chances get in the net again. I do think we play with a little different energy when Bussi is in net.