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Nobody’s ring chasing signing an extension. The “bad team tax” just means you have to pay more in UFA than a better team all things being equal. If Derrick Brown hit the market he was getting a monster deal. I don’t think we had to pay a special tax that’s exclusive to a few teams. The bad team tax is not relevant to extending Icky.

I think folks should take a look the the total yards most gbs are getting each week. Its all over the place. Even Allen isn't hitting 200 yards per game most games. Most are are around 175 to 200 yards on any given week. It's becoming more common and I'm not sure why.

Bryce threw open to Tmac. It was a fantastic play on 4th down and 4? Great throw, great catch. Period. Nothing else to discuss of the play.

I like Mendoza but I'm honestly not sure he's much more than a high level game manager at the NFL level. A bit more raw talented version of Purdy if you will. I haven't seen enough of the Oregon guy to have much of an opinion. Looking forward to seeing him in the playoffs. Everyone else? I have significant questions about any of them being 1st round worthy.

Icky is exactly who he was coming out of college. Run mauling tackle but below average pass pro at the NFL level. Charles Cross was the pass pro ready tackle. It was always going to take a couple of years to get him up to the NFL level for pass blocking. Icky has earned his extension because he's right on pace with where he should be given where he started. The difference between Bryce and Icky is most drafted QBs still with their team don't play on their 5th year option. They get an extension after year 3. The exceptions to this are rare. That's not saying that Bryce wouldn't play on the remainder of his rookie deal, or the 5th year, if that's all we offered. I'm just pointing out that that hasn't been the trend, and it's something I'm sure his agent is well aware of when it comes to negotiation time. Trevor Lawrence: Jacksonville Jaguars, 5 years, $275 million Joe Burrow: Cincinnati Bengals, 5 years, $275 million Justin Herbert: Los Angeles Chargers, 5 years, $262.5 million Brock Purdy: San Francisco 49ers, 5 years, $265 million Jalen Hurts: Philadelphia Eagles, 5 years, $255 million Kyler Murray: Arizona Cardinals, 5 years, $230.5 million These are some of the recent extensions. Icky's contract would be around half of this. The question becomes then, if we plugged in an average QB behind a line of Icky, Lewis, Mayes, Hunt and Moton, would the results be similar, better or worse to Bryce with an extension behind ?, ? Mayes, Hunt and Moton? Icky, Corbett and Lewis would likely be cap casualties. That's why I question the Bryce option. It's whether or not we're stupid enough to pay an extension if it comes to that, because I definitely don't think it's warranted baring a SB appearance that Bryce drags the entire team with him based on his 3 years of Jekyll/Hyde performance and his still less than desirable mechanics, footwork, and other issues.

Nothing yet. He was extremely raw in college. And you have him in a run first offense with a QB that throws mostly to the TE and rbs out of the backfield. You're looking at 3-4 targets a game at most.

JFC lol this board

11 shows this year, tickets for Asheville in Feb, getting Charleston, Greensboro, Savannah tomorrow. might go to st Augustine but my ex is gonna be there and I don’t want to deal with it

I know we want to consistently see more yards. I do too. But 175 yards, 3 TDs and no INTs can win games. Heck, it actually is for Carolina this season.

Oh buddy. Bluegrass Chosen One

We have to keep Icky he is doing great and he loves this team!!

Why? He signed a contract that says he gets paid 3.9M next year as a 39 year old or we take a 5.8M cap hit. He would be a fool to walk away from that.

He was horrific in pass blocking his first few years and only improved recently.

he's racking up records, recognition Who would have thought Bryce would break a Cam passing record?

That market has plateaued because most of the top young players at those positions have recent deals. I wouldn't expect another big spike for another couple of offseasons.

I absolutelyagree. I also want better than TMac right now, better than Coker and Legette. I want better than Evans and Sanders too. Those players aren't great. They're below average to good right now. But I do believe they can all improve as they get more experience along with their HC/OC. I guess where I differ from the consensus is that I see BY improving. Just as his targets are. His list of dumb ish is diminishing every game. And his list of good plays are increasing.

You can disagree but I would suggest looking at recent games for Curhan. I am not expecting the world, nor should any of us, but we also shouldn't be surprised when a PS player gets abused in games. That's a very unsuccessful strategy.

I don't disagree. Hubbard got often too patient. Wonder of he adjusted because he did hit some holes much more like Rico does Sunday.

lol no. The Young trade was one of the worst ever. Never want to see that happen again.

Because we ran so well against NO last time

No one moved the ball on Koo. CB gets a pass because Lucy is a dirts

I'm not saying it is I'm saying he does not put himself in position to make the catch a lot of the time

If they touched the ball and equal amount of times a game, I could see the argument. But Bryce, being the overall #1 and a QB savant, never having back to back complete games looking like a franchise QB is about as frustrating as you can get year 3. He does what he does in ATL and the week before did what he did vs NO. XL can be benched, Bryce can't. Dalton is worse by a country mile.