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Young, Tarkenton, and Brees were all “short” for their eras. Doug Flutie was downright tiny. Every one of them had a superpower to offset it, something that made their height irrelevant. I like the kid. I really do. But a superpower? Nah.

I get the sense most folks on this forum skew a little older. We’ve all watched enough football to know the difference between a Hall of Famer and a guy who just isn’t it. If you’re still looking at what Bryce brings and convincing yourself he’s something he’s not, you’re just holding on to the wish that we didn’t screw up the #1 pick.

Maybe you go well Alex Smith lost 28 out of his first 44 and still salvaged a journeymans career out of it. Is that the bar of success we want? Alex Smith?

Bryce is a good kid. Everything I see about him makes me like him. OFF THE FIELD But he is not going to take us to the promised land. Dude has an 11 and 25 record. For every game he wins he loses 2

Its called PTSD bro Ive seen this movie too many times

The BY9 situation is classic sunk cost fallacy. We traded premium assets to get him. Every few games he flashes the traits that made him appealing (quick reads, touch, composure) but the macro picture doesnt lie. Hes producing at a bottom-tier level across efficiency metrics in yards per attempt, EPA/play, completion percentage over expected, and explosive plays. Instead of objectively reassessing, the organization continues to justify the investment - new coaches, new systems, new excuses - trying to salvage what was invested. Giving him a 5th year is a self inflicted would. We need to take our lumps and move on

The wins are the dopamine hit that help distract people from just how much of a miss BY9 was/is. Yeah they feel good in the moment but they dont change the reality of our QB situation.

thats a level of trashy I didnt know existed.

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poo on a shingle

The question becomes what does he want to win more? The game or the wager.

But its going to happen. Especially with prop bets. I dont know Amon-Ra St Brown and I dont mean to throw any shade his way but... If he can drop one pass that he otherwise might have caught and cash in on an over/under on 9 catches... Or get tackled to keep from hitting a certain number of yards... He's not throwing the game per se but...

Gambling - at the industrial level it has reached - is the single largest threat to the NFL. It will only take one scandal the size of what just went down with the NBA

If you dont want to see Young get a fifth year, you might not be so happy about being one and done in the playoffs

The D showed the fug up

Dave Canales just feels like a guy marking time. He’s not a “bust your ass and chase perfection” Landry type, and he’s not a “you’re a good man, now let’s find your best self” Rivera type either. He doesn’t inspire greatness, but he doesn’t tolerate outright laziness either. He’s basically football’s version of middle management, competent, steady, and fine at keeping things from collapsing, but not the kind of leader who changes a culture or puts a team on his back. You get the sense ownership hired him to keep the lights on while they figure out what’s next. In short, he’s not the problem… but he’s never going to be the solution either.

This thread is an insult to ass

There was a time I believed in it. Walk up to the LOS and look the MLB dead in the eye and say "Off-tackle right on 2" and just beat their ass with execution. But that NFL is gone and it doesnt matter how good the team is as the worst guy on the defense is still a world class athlete. There has to be some misdirection in todays NFL. You cant go with an empty backfield on 3rd and anything and win the numbers game. Maybe in Vince Lombardi's day that out execute mentality worked - but so did the Veer

My problem with most of the last few regimes is their dogged determination to keep doing what isnt working. All those years ago when I played ball through high school my coaches were all of the mold of "just out execute your opponent and it doesnt matter if they know what youre going to do". I get the sense thats what our last few head coaches believed - if we would just play our game better, it wouldnt matter what the other guys did. Yeah they stopped that B Gap run 7 times but if we do it better on attempt 8...

My point was that the dude wasnt going to sell regardless. The dude I know made a small fortune in tech and spends money on poo he likes without a lot of worry about the pay back. I dont know what BigKat put out there but my point was I dont think it would have mattered unless it hit 8 figures.

Funny that. I know a former poster that was willing to put mid 6 figures on the table and couldnt get his attention

I love the energy of the official thread showing up the night before. Im looking forward to a competitive game tomorrow. Bills have only played one team with a winning record

Both things can be true There can be a reduction in deep balls being thrown in the league AND Bryce cant do it anyway so it works out

AND The gambling and FF talk have made the pregame shows unwatchable. Between them trying to do their stupid little skits, talking about money lines, spots about so-and-sos hard life and lack of support from their drug addicted mom, and pushing fantasy football bullshit. They dont talk about Xs and Os But that probably a different soapbox