pantherj

Take him. Our secondary was clueless.

In watching Darnold in his season here I've seen what is the main problem. He often doesn't throw to his first read when they are clearly open. That alone is enough to cause a lot of poor performances. To make matters worse his deep ball is terrible almost always. That's pretty much enough to lock us into 5 - 12ish records so long as he's here.

We passed on Fields, so we'll pass on the QBs in this draft as well. From his comments we're taking a LT imo.

If nothing else I want the HC to help find a great QB. Rhule hitched his wagon to Sam, so that tells you all you need to know.

Would that be a step down in his career? He's like 63 and had a higher position in Vegas.

Pickles and Pickett both have small hands.

I would place the likelihood of Sam being injured badly next season at high. Our o-line will likely be below average at pass blocking again, and Sam can't read the field. That means we'll be playing from behind, and forced to throw the ball. That will result in Sam taking a lot of big hits, and presto another major injury for Sam. That will bring out the hilarious PJ and his antics, and I think that could get us into the top 5 in the draft.

Look at these pitch and catch pass heavy playoff games. Especially in the 4th quarter when you really need to air it out. That's the NFL now. Your QB should be the best player on your team. Building a mega team around him means you're shooting for the SB or bust. We have no QB, and a bad o-line. Any defense can be exploited, so I'm not concerned about the defense. We could be bad for at least the next 3 seasons with our current plan in place.

And when Gettleman decided to spend a fortune it was for Matt Kalil.

Once we are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs next season put in PJ. We need to insure we are as high as possible in the draft to draft the best QB prospect.

When you don't have a franchise QB you WANT to lose and get to the top of the draft. Either that or go get a Tom Brady, otherwise your team isn't doing poop. We have no plan in place. Nothing. Things happen and we just blow in the wind.

Rhule said before the notorious Redskins game "I'd rather teach my guys how to win in December than lose and move up the draft." Well Rhule your decision has sealed your fate. You'll be fired at the end of next season.

QB limbo can last for way longer than 7 years. We can keep it going indefinitely. Just keep winning enough games each season to miss out on the top QB in the drafts. It's easy to win 5 games.

The Bengals avoided QB limbo and took the top QB in the draft. And WOOOOW look they're good now. Amazing. Meanwhile Rhule thinks Sam is going to become a star in his 5th season. We're trash.

Yeah Stafford is out of rhythm and throwing behind. Plenty of time to get re-calibrated.

Depends on who our QB will be.

Worst case scenario is they get Watson and continue to beat the sh!t out of us for the next couple of seasons.

If Sam is our QB then it would have to be us. If Watson is our QB, and Brady is gone, then we could possibly win the South imo.

Do a brain scan for Chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE). He needs help.

Should have done this:

We have fans here who think that going 5-12 is better than 0-17. No it isn't if you have a poop QB. Those 5 wins will all be forgotten, and when the draft rolls around and a Justin Herbert goes in front of us we lose everything. The NFL is a QB pitch and catch contest if you want to win the SB. All that matters is landing a franchise QB. The rest can be built later. Going 0-17 is good if you have a poop QB. That's what you want. You're supposed to lose, not scrape and scrap with a poop QB YEAR AFTER YEAR for possibly a decade. NO.

Well our idiot scouts and coaches thought Sam would be our franchise QB. We had him on a one year prove it deal only to fool other teams into thinking we might draft a QB. The instant the draft was over Sam received an outrageous $18m extension without having EVER proved anything on the football field. Losing seasons and nothing else. Just like with Teddy, the Panthers leadership though they were getting a bargain at that price. No other team was interested in Sam. Idiotic. We are now in the middle of what I had been warning about all along. QB limbo. Teddy started QB limbo for us by helping us win too many games to have our choice at QB in the draft. Sam pushed us too high in the draft as well, except this is a lame duck QB draft, so it doesn't matter. The next QB to come in will also extend QB limbo further unless that QB is Watson. Watson is the only QB we could reasonably obtain that would end QB limbo and allow out team to focus on building around him and actually winning. Otherwise QB limbo will likely continue until at the earliest the 2023 NFL draft. Even then if we win too many games with a new poop QB we'll miss our chance again.

If we don't get Watson then you know what's coming. 0-17.

So now we have thread whining about whining fans? Just shut the forum down. And I wish I didn't know what that song was about.

You might have to shoot.