pantherj

I'm in a weird situation here. I can't go into draft mode because we don't even have a 1st round pick. I'm just going to have to sit here and ride this out.

Ideally you take the Rams trade for Burns, and you trade Brown as well. You eat this season and possibly go 0-17 without a good defense. No problem. You then go into the 2024 draft a select the best offensive weapons available in the higher rounds. The reason you do this is to evaluate Young in the 2024 and 2025 seasons. We need to know by then if Young is good enough to be our franchise QB. The sooner we know the better, and we can’t evaluate Young with the offense we have now. To speed up the offense rebuild you trade the defensive vets. This comes at the cost of losing games because the defense is bad, but if Young is good we’ll know it. And if he is, then it’s no trouble to start rebuilding the defense in the following draft and free agency. If Young is bad, then we’ll know for sure, and we’ll have our high first round pick, and the Rams 1st round pick, and whatever we got for Brown to draft Young’s replacement. Instead we are hanging on to defensive vets and trying to win games with the defense. Bad idea because it’s 2023 and the rule la favor the offense. And what’s worse is that we can’t evaluate Young with this roster. We at least needed to sign a #1 vet WR, but even then we don’t have the juice. We’re too slow, so who knows what Young is capable of, and we have no 1st round pick next season, and Burns and Brown will be any their big time pay days when it’s doesn’t matter what they do on the field. Their defensive play is largely irrelevant until we have a offense in place and we know that Young is the guy. I don’t know Fitts plan, but it’s not even close to what I want.

No worries I'll keep an eye on Drake.

Chuba us a north south runner who needs to build up speed as he goes. Sanders is quicker, but he's not showing enough power. Give Sanders a little time to catch up in the weigh room and get acclimated. Remember he sat through the preseason and has nagging injuries.

I would do an avatar bet with anyone that Young will not be benched this season. Also, if Young is so weak that he can't handle playing poorly this season, then it's already over for us. Spoiler alert, he looks like he thinks like a computer and is unfazed by the game.

He's got to put arch on the ball and let it come down to the receiver. i actually wouldn't mind if they focused mostly on deep passing with him, he seems to understand the rest.

He's not putting enough arch on the deep ball and it's like he's throwing it as hard as he can with low arch and it just rockets out to nowhere. Teddy did that push passing as well and it wasn't a good idea. Watch CJ Stroud throw the ball and see how high it goes and it looks effortless.

I liked the way he read the field and understood the opposing defense, and he's doing that now as well. The problem is that he needs to make a few deep passes, and he's missing on those. He makes a couple deep passes in this game and we win, and we're 2-0 if he came out of the gate doing that. He misses or doesn't see his deep opportunities. We need the deep ball badly.

I liked the way CJ could drop the ball in the bucket with nice accurate high arching passes. Young looked like Teddy push passing the ball deep with not much accuracy. More of a game manager.

It didn't look to me the CJ and BY had similar arm strength at all, but I'd have to go back and look at what the top scouts had to say.

Which QB did you want? I thought CJ arm looked very strong, but it's water under the bridge at this point.

One major problem that is cropping up is that his deep ball has been consistently overthrown so far that I wonder if he has vision problems.

If they Panthers wanted a bigger guy with a powerful arm CJ was right there. They wanted the smart little guy with the weaker arm, so be it FItt. We'll see what happens. Tepper will clean house if Young doesn't pan out, but we're two seasons away from that decision.

We don't have the luxury of knowing if Young has it or not this early in his NFL career. We really won't know until toward the end of NEXT season.

Never heard that one haha.

I like Shaq and and I wish him well. I think that was his last play in the NFL, but you never know. I'd retire if I were him.

There are three things that happened that killed this franchise. These are the critical mistakes that we have still yet to recover from: 1.) Marty wanted Herbert, and I thought he was going to make a move to go get him. We stayed put and missed out on Herbert. Franchise changing mistake. 2.) We brought in Teddy Bridgewater when we should not have done so. Teddy was good enough to get us enough wins to ruin our draft position, but he would never lead us anywhere. This is what I call a "QB Limbo" move where you can't replace your current QB with a star QB, or potential star QB, because he's wining too many games, but he's not the answer. 3.) Fitt signs Sam Darnold, who I said several times on this forum at the time, was a proven failure at QB. I said at the time that he would flop, and he did just that. Signing Sam stripped us of valuable draft picks, but it also allowed QB limbo to continue because we had CMC and too much talent by that point to allow Sam to drag us to the rock bottom of the league and top of the draft. The scary thing about Fitt is that he believed that Sam was better than Teddy, and that Sam was a franchise QB in the making. I sure as hell didn't think that at the time, and I was hard pressed to find a fan who thought that. Shouldn't the GM know better than the fan base? No. Fitt was guessing. His guess was incorrect, and that mistake ushered in the dark times. Teddy was fun to watch. Sam took your soul and made you turn the tv off. It really came down to those three critical mistakes. Has Fitt screwed up left and right in other areas? Oh hell yes, but those mistakes are not why we've had to suffer through these dark and boring times. Now everything, including Fitt's career, is riding on Young. Buckle up.

We don't have the weapons on offense to really do much other than lose this season. Yes we'll win a few games because some teams are just terrible, and we can't help but beat them. Good teams are going to beat the breaks off this team. I would describe our passing offense as a sad capitulation. The receivers are not good enough, and even when they make a play Young is just not capitalizing on it because he's a rookie. If I didn't know Young was a rookie, then I'd say he's like Teddy Bridgewater, but with a bad sense of timing. Teddy's mid-level passing game was so good you couldn't go man-to-man on us because he would throw our receivers open and we'd get tons of YAC. But teddy wasn't good deep, and Young doesn't look good deep either. However Young is a rookie, so we don't have any idea what we have on our hands. This isn't the finished product obviously. This may sound crazy, but sometimes I find myself missing Teddy. That goes to show you just how much we Panthers fans have suffered that I wanted Teddy back when we had Sam. I still kind of miss him. His mid-range passes were on point, and that was with a poop o-line that nearly got him killed on most plays. What would Teddy do passing with this o-line? Some early pumpkin carving that's what. The hardest part about watching this team is that there's nothing to enjoy on offense. It's just watching players struggle, and struggle... it's so boring. I don't know how many times we're going to score around 13 points, but it's going to be a lot imo. And there's no fast forward button to veteran Young. We just have to eat this again. More garbage.

He needs to pay me for doing nothing in the TB game when we could have gone to the playoffs.

Bates, the Falcons safety, said he knew ahead of time that we were going to throw to the middle of the field to get Young comfortable, so he was sitting on that waiting. He knew we were going to go between the hashes and not as much deep. Then you have the bad play calling early in the game, and the miscommunications between Frank and Beans and Young. Weird jumbo packages, and extremely predictable "we have a rookie" play calls. Horn goes down. Young starts tipy toe dancing before he throws. The whole thing started coming apart at the seams, but we can only get better from here. The Falcons are a mediocre team. We can look forward to seeing Young improve before our eyes. That's basically what this season has to offer, and little else. Take it or leave it.

Ok if Zach doesn't do something this series I'm turning this off.

Someone on twitter swears tha he can see Rodgers Achilles tendon snap, but anytime I have to start with "someone on twitter" it's just crap.

Zach looks so bad.

Well should be interesting Wilson is about to come out.

Yeah I couldn't tell what happened but it looked like his left calf got strained.