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Everything posted by DaveThePanther2008
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With the Watson fiasco going on I doubt we trade for him. I think Miami has to weigh out whether they want to move forward with Tua or snag one of the QBs in this draft. Trading up might cost 2 or 3 first or any number of draft combinations which I think many of us will be willing to do. BUT, WHAT IF, Miami stays at 3 and take s QB. Would you be willing to trade for Tua? I know many are split on whether he has the tools to be a solid NFL starter. I thought he had his bright and terrible moments. But truthfully, most rookies do. If you think he worthy of trading for, what would we be willing to give up to get him. If they take a QB at 3. I think giving up 8 is too high considering they are moving on from him however instead of giving them a 2nd maybe we give them 8 in exchange we get Tua and 18. Tua Yes or No and if Yes what would you trade for him?
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Boston Globe says Watson should remain with Texans.
DaveThePanther2008 replied to SizzleBuzz's topic in Carolina Panthers
You can bet your ass had Watson never demanded a trade that this crap would have never come out until well after his career was over. This is Houston's way of saying, If he doesn't play for us, he'll play for no one. I have no doubt this was started by the Texan organization, none whatsoever. If the women produce evidence, Watson will be destroyed. I'm glad we didn't trade for him and then Houston put this out. -
Go on record. Who still wants Watson?
DaveThePanther2008 replied to Sasquatch's topic in Carolina Panthers
I really don't see a resolution to this case until well after the draft. We need to make a decision well before that. Unless Houston is going to let him go for a 4th round pick, which I highly doubt, this is not the season to get him. We need to go with what we have or move up in the draft and forget Watson. -
Deshaun Allegations detailed (not good)
DaveThePanther2008 replied to Mills's topic in Carolina Panthers
I find it coincidental that this occurred after he said he wasn't playing for Houston again. These owners really think they own people and McNair seems to be ruthless enough to get this started. I'm not defending Watson and it's hard to defend someone when 20+ women came forward and said the same thing. Sadly just like Bill Cosby, he'll go down because volume means truth though no evidence can be had. Regardless, Watson will not be trade in 2021. There is no way in next 6 to 8 weeks that this gets resolved before the draft. -
I love Obada. He has come from literally nothing to a solid rotational player. His story is an inspiration to many potential players in the UK but if he was an american bred player no one would blink twice at his release. Fitterer is betting that no one will offer more than we are offering. If he gets a deal, good for him but with the abundance of free agents. Obada is probably lower tier. I hope we resign him but this is a smart move by the Panthers. If we lose him, we'll find someone to replace him at the same price or lower.
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I just hope we can get this done as soon as possible. I don't know if the Huddle will survive if we have to wait until the draft. Tepper wants Watson and we'll have to live with whatever we end up trading. Get 'er done. And move on.
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Deshaun Watson has lawsuit filed against him by Tony Buzbee
DaveThePanther2008 replied to Verge's topic in Carolina Panthers
As soon as he said it wasn't about money, IT'S ABOUT MONEY. In today's society the accused has to prove their innocents instead of the victim (or supposed victim) has to prove that the accused is guilty. It's sad when a woman can say that someone did something against them and the accused has to fight to keep his name. If it is true that this lawyer has connections with the Texans than this as a nasty as it gets. -
And you base your opinion off of? Fitterer track record with the Panthers? What makes you think they didn't do their due diligence in determining whether they wanted to sign these players. If your going to express an opposite opinion why not back it up with some valid reason other than you are infatuated with Hurney.
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He's thinking about leaving because they can't afford to sign any other talent because they are paying him a quarter of the cap. You want a winning team stop being so damn greedy. Signing players that can play multiple position. We've had a couple of good ones in the past. Wharton and Hangartner (misspelled?) to start with. I am sure that they didn't drop names in a hat and pull one out. Until they have a bad track record I think we should give them the benefit of the doubt.
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Too many critics on this forum. So many think that they know everything and that the people that are hired to do this suck. I think he'll be groomed as our future center. Hopefully he can stay off the injured list.
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To be honest, I think this is the only way we get a QB in the draft. There are many teams that will be willing to trade up and snag one of those QBs. If one team moves up with a team like Cincinnati or even Miami than you can bet at least 4 will be gone. We have to have Watson before draft day, if not, than we need to be the aggressor and make a move. I hate trading up and would rather trade down and get more picks.
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Predictions for FA... then draft. By position
DaveThePanther2008 replied to musicman's topic in Carolina Panthers
NFL.com posted this complete list of players that are free agents. I did not see Andrew Norwell from Jacksonville. A lot of good players on this list. https://www.nfl.com/news/2021-nfl-free-agency-notable-departures-for-all-32-teams -
I would love to see him come back. Though an older vet, I loved is nasty temperament and would fill in nicely on our O-line again.
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Has Norwell been released?
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Patriot fans seem excited that Cams back
DaveThePanther2008 replied to mrcompletely11's topic in Carolina Panthers
Yet they put us in the position to win 8 games and TB5 won none of them. My opinion, Brady would not have fared any better in N.E. in 2020. Our opinions differ and that's ok. I'm not going to change my mind and you surely aren't changing yours. We'll leave it at that. -
Patriot fans seem excited that Cams back
DaveThePanther2008 replied to mrcompletely11's topic in Carolina Panthers
I think you are in the minority on that opinion but if you say so. Let's reverse the scenario. What would Bridgewater done in NE? And what would Cam had done in Carolina? Honestly Cam puts us in the playoffs with the weapons we had. His arm strength may not have been up to 2015 but it would have been far better than TB5. Cam given the chance to win 8 games during the season, at minimum, would have won at least 50%. That puts us at 9-7. TB5 in New England. You're looking at New England in the top 5 draft picks and probably contending with Jacksonville and the NYJ for the top spot. -
Patriot fans seem excited that Cams back
DaveThePanther2008 replied to mrcompletely11's topic in Carolina Panthers
And who was their running back compared to the 2020 running back. I will not debate with you over this. You really believe the talent on the 2020 team is equal to the 2003 team. You are also talking two different era. Many of the rules that are in place in today were not in place in 2003. Many rules were changed in the past decade to increase scoring and limit defense. So to compare 2003 and 2020 are not comparable. -
Patriot fans seem excited that Cams back
DaveThePanther2008 replied to mrcompletely11's topic in Carolina Panthers
Are you saying D. Byrd who was basically their #1 receiver was as good as players Brady took to the super bowl? Their receiving corps was no better than a practice squad team. Brady would not have done any better with them. Brady, as much as I hate to say it, is the GOAT at least in his era. But he was wise to get out of NE when he did. 2020 in NE would not have been his greatest year. -
Patriot fans seem excited that Cams back
DaveThePanther2008 replied to mrcompletely11's topic in Carolina Panthers
I also think you need to take in consideration the same baseball pitchers go through when coming off of shoulder surgery. Usually the year they return they are not very effective but usually the following year they are much better. I believe this will be the case with Cam. He had some rough games last year. He has some lousy receivers the Patriots pretty much put the whole offense on Cam. That said it wasn't the only issue and Cam did have some lousy throws. I believe with some real targets. Cam is going to prove to Carolina and the rest of the league. He's not washed up. -
Patriot fans seem excited that Cams back
DaveThePanther2008 replied to mrcompletely11's topic in Carolina Panthers
We'll see what NE does to give him some help. They have a couple of players that sat out 2020 so that'll help them too. If they give him some weapons he'll have a great season and will be a big target next offseason. Many think he is done. I am not one of them. He has shyt for receivers and still managed to win more games than we did. TB5 in New England would have put them in contention with the Jets and Jacksonville as the worse team in the league. -
I agree Mr. Scot, but this is the year to get it done. If we can somehow get Watson the free agent market is going to be full of players that will take one or two year deals. at value to us, until the cap goes back up. I think we are freeing up money to do just that. Build our line with free agents and what remains of our draft choices draft BPA whether offense or defense. Hopefully, we can sign Miller and a couple of the other decent o-linemen we had last year.
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Lamar fell off the map half way through the season. He was initially in the MVP voting and disappeared and people started questioning whether he could take Baltimore to the promise land. JOSH Allen is a great young player but neither are as good as Watson. If we get Watson and get a good O-line and continue to build our defense. He'll be our 2nd MVP QB.
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I couldn't help but think of the same thing. Part of the reason CMC would not be traded was because of his salary and now it's changed. Also they wanted defensive players and maybe CMC and Shaq are part of the equation. I would hate to see us lose him but if it is necessary to get Watson than it's a gamble I think the front office is willing to make.
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Greg Olsen and Thomas Davis: Warriors.
DaveThePanther2008 replied to ellis's topic in Carolina Panthers
What great players. Gave 100% every game and were truly great Panthers. Welcome Home We'll miss you.