DaveThePanther2008

What would make you make such an inaccurate statement. He's not Marty Hurney. I am sure he will have the majority of the input. Rhule and Fitterer will have a good working relationship and put a good team on the field.

The Green Bay game we forced them to punt 4 times in a row. Something no other team did against the Packers all season. The defense was by far better the second half than the first. Offensively, teams locked down the short game and forced TB to throw deep which he couldn't do.

It will be interesting to see what Fitterer does in the Free Agent Market.

I know we have to address the offensive line but putting a defense that contain some of these high powered offenses should be a priority. I think we'll address the O-line in free agency and maybe one or two defensive players. If we get Watson and can have a stellar defense we can go back to our rightful spot at the top of the division. Steve Smith, IMO, hits it right on the head about our dream scenario. https://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-total-access-dream-trades-signings-for-nfc-south

Miller showed me that he has the tools to play LB in the NFL. Everyone wants to say he showed flashes and that may be accurate but he played on a terrible defense. You can't expect a rookie to dominate on a horrific defense. I would believe that he will be given the opportunity to shine in this defense. I am excited as I believe he will show much more and will become a key member of our young defense.

He has lots of potential and I think he will fit good in Snow's defense. I look forward to seeing this young player with the rest of our defense.

I don't believe we will trade him and as many have posted his cap hit would be devastating. However, deals are made that may help alleviate those cap problems. Reggie was hurt at the same time CMC was which gave Davis his opportunity. But, I do remember the times Reggie came in for CMC in 2019 he performed well and made plays. He's not CMC and no where am I implying that he is. If it meant giving him up to get Watson you have to have a plan on giving Watson weapons. I don't he'll be traded. I created this post to get the opinions on whether Reggie could be a viable option at running back IF (BIG IF) we traded him.

Show me the conversation where Reggie was brought up.

It's a conversation. if you don't want to offer some actual input. Don't click. Sorry it offends you that someone other than you brings up a topic of discussion.

Yeah this. Little is on the bubble. Hopefully we have a reasonable offseason training and Little can actually get some real work. If we can get OTAs and minicamps this year Rhule will have his chance to see whether he is salvageable or not. Of course I am pulling for him to succeed but my expectations are he's probably a bust.

I am very much against trading CMC and Houston has indicated they want defensive players but for conversation. What if we ended up trading CMC to get Watson. Do you think Reggie Bonnafan could fill the role of CMC? I know he's not as electric but has shown he can make big plays from the same position. If CMC were put in the package I would have to believe that Fitterer and Rhule might believe that Reggie could be a CMC-light.

I would start with YGM and Shaq but if push comes to shove I would give them Burns or Brown. I don't see any other way for us to get Watson. That said I would not give them more than 3 first and only one defensive player like Brown or Burns. That's basically 4 first rounders.

I don't think he would be part of the deal either. Watson will want to come to a place that has weapons and trading CMC would be counterproductive.

Sadly from what I have seen Houston doesn't want offensive players they want young defensive players. I would love to give them YGM but I believe they are going to want Burns, Brown or Chinn. Watson for 3st, Burns and Bridgewater. They can use Bridgewater to gap whoever they may bring in or draft. I just don't see how it can only be NYJ and us. It seems to me there are or will be others if it gets announced.

I'm all in on bringing Watson here but CMC should not be part of the bargain. It's been said that Houston wants defensive players included in the deal. I think Burns is more of an option (which I don't want to see) than CMC.

As I watch things unfold and it appears half the league is going to jockey into position to get one of the rookie QBs. I think we need to do what is necessary to get Watson. Houston has said they want picks and defensive players. I could see 3 #1s and as much as I hate it we are going to have to part with Brown, Burns or Chinn and one other defensive player. I doubt we give up two of those three. They are basically getting 4 first round picks counting one of these 3 players. Though the price is steep, I think this is our best way out of the crazy QBs frenzy. Tepper wants a franchise QB and you can't say any of these guys(draft picks or free agents) are surefire 100% franchise outside of Lawrence and even he has a small chance at not being that guy. (I say this only because he hasn't played in the league yet) It's going to suck to go a couple of years without a #1 pick but if we play our cards right those picks are going to be in the 20s and maybe 32.

It depends on if we land a QB. If we don't land a QB than yes 100% re-sign him. If we land Watson and give up CMC than yes we'll need to re-sign him. If we have to go with TB5 he's going to need all we can give him to be productive. OR god forbid we let him walk and have to go in 2021 tanking for 2022 with TB at the helm.

Henning is the only reason we were in that game in 2003/04. Billicheat had our offense stopped, thanks to his cheating way, until Henning changed the game plan and we took off in the 2nd half. Fox let Henning run the offense. I can only imagine what he would have done with Cam. I'd take Cam and the 2015 defense with SS and Jonathan Stewart.

I thought the Texans wanted picks and defensive players. This is probably more likely especially since they just let Watts go.

Lightning won't strike a second time. If we put him on waivers he'll be gone quicker than Hot Apple Pie on a Sunday afternoon.

The issue is. Will there be one available at 8 or will we give up the farm to move up to get one. What if we try and are outbid. The team has already made it clear that TB is not the answer and moving forward with him in 2020 is slim to none. Some of the QBs that are on the market may need a change of scenery. I would have to trust our staff to weed out the good and the bad. The point of my thread was if we trade for a QB we are going to be without many picks in this draft. We will have to be on our "A" game in the witn UDFAs and FA and hit on every pick in the draft. I think this off season will show which teams have the most talented scouting team. Hopefully, we are one of those teams. There will be young free agents that are/were stuck behind a starter kind of like Klein when he was behind Luke. I would imagine that Fitterer will be looking into every roster looking for those types of players.

Hope so, I saw where GB center was going to be released but I would imagine he's probably going to demand a nice paycheck.

These players that want their input are the same ones that are strapping their team financially. They want the biggest and the highest contract for their position and expect miracles on the GM to put a monster O-line in from of them with Beast Mode running the ball. if I were Seattle or any other team that has a player screaming for rights to have input. The first thing I would tell them is renegotiate your contract to a team friendly deal. If you can't do your part to help get a winning squad by reducing your mammoth salary. Than STFU and deal with who we can afford. You can't expect to take 1/4 of the cap and than scream you don't have anyone to support you. Those players cost money too.

Obviously our No. 1 priority is finding someone who can guide this team in 2021 and hopefully beyond. There are a millions threads about that. This thread is more about what happens when we find one. Our options at QB are as many as the number of posts on QBs in this forum. Each will come at a cost of draft capital unless we take one via Free Agency. That might be worse than our current situation. If we are to manage a way to get Watson our draft picks will be severely reduced. I think free agency is going to produce a ton of available talent due to the CAP not going up as it has normally. Teams will part ways with players that in a normal offseason they may have kept. Fitterer and Rhule will no doubt try to weed through the high priced FA and try to nab a couple of solid contributors especially on the O-Line. During the next couple of weeks the list will grow and we'll be able to guess at who we might sign. Depending on the number of picks we have based on our new QB. Nailing every pick will be crucial. I would hope we keep either a 2nd or 3rd this season so we can address some protection for our new QB. Rounds 4 thru 7 we must find those gems that were overlooked. This offseason I believe that opportunity is better than previous season since many of the lower round picks were made because of good pro days and combine results. Many of these borderline players may slip through the cracks. Hopefully Fitterer and Rhule do well. Finally I think the UDFA market will produce more 53 man roster spots than normal. Once again hopefully our scouting staff is ahead of other teams and we find another Norwell that can improve our team. I hope Fitterer is creative enough to do wonders this offseason and we continue to build on our roster like we did in 2020.

If we could get him for a 3rd and let him play in 2021. If he does well than we can make a move to keep him. If he fails maybe we are high enough in the draft next year for Howell or one of the other up and coming QBs. I'[m not against it.