DaveThePanther2008

We have plenty of talent on both sides of the ball. It would be too obvious if we were tanking in 2022. I hate seeing that because many of these guys only have a 3 or 4 year career window and they didn't work as hard as they did to go to a team that is tanking intentionally.

Been a wild couple of hours that's for sure.

You and I have always seen pretty much eye to eye and you're much more in tune to college players than I am. What's your take on Pickett?

The options are getting thinner by the minute for a FA or trade. Mayfield or Minshew are about the only ones I would be open to trading for.

All this movement and we're doing nothing makes me feel like we are drafting a QB. Whether we're trading down or taking one at #6.

That might work but without the 4th. Darnold and Robbie They can continue the Bromance in Cleveland

I think Minshew is a better option and a much lower cost. I think Philly is reluctant to let him go though. Hurst could regress or get hurt and they are back to ground zero.

That would suck for Mayfield. Seattle is going to be in total rebuild and probably have a terrible year and be on the market in 2023 without much to show for a starting gig. I'm torn between yes and no. He had all the talent in the world around him in Cleveland and just could keep it going after 2020. His injuries don't help him much either. With us he'd be in the same boat as Darnold. Show or go.

Look, as it stands Darnold will be the #1 QB going into training camp. If he wins the starting QB over a rookie or a FA. He's going to have to perform. I've said in many threads that you cannot put all of his problems on him. Our line was atrocious and that's being kind. I think we'll have a much better line and there shouldn't be any more excuses. I hope somewhere we get our Franchise QB but even if we do I'm hoping Darnold does well. If he plays well in 2022 and we don't resign him we should be in a position for a compensation pick later on.

Lloyd is a beast. I've seen a couple of game of his and he was awesome. I would not be against this pick.

The only thing about this I don't like are all the one year deals. Seems they always play well and we end up losing them. Overall, I agree B should be the grade. Depending on the draft it could go to an A.

That would suck because it would be 2 years in a row that the one LT I would have wanted went right before us.

You never know when the draft gets here but like I said I went to each teams needs and went from there. I think it will be fairly close. The only thing I couldn't nail down was any exact name especially OT.

True points. These guys have to put the work in off-season. That said if you are working on things that a bad coach teaches you, You're not going to improve. What I have read is he has his knack and a way with players. Maybe not the older vets but possibly some of the younger guys that were under the previous coach might benefit.

Many are speculating on who would be available for us at #6. I went through each team above us and saw what their needs were. Jacksonville is going to take one of the OT. They have to protect Lawrence. Which one, anyone's guess. Detroit has QB listed but this is way to high for any QB. Hutchinson is probably their target and too good to pass up. Houston also need a QB but like Detroit way too high. Probably use the Cleveland pick for a QB. Names like Hutchinson/Thibodeaux/Hamilton/Stingley for the defense or an OT New York Jets mention a terrible defense and Stingley as their #1 target or possibly Cross New York Giants Linderbaum, Karlaftis (Edge Purdue), Devin Lloyd LB, Three of these 5 mention OT. That would pretty much wipe out the cream of the crop on OT. What your opinion?

Maybe you're right. I do believe that Campen is going to make a huge difference for our offensive line. Current and our new FA. Maybe he can move in inside and play well. I was not happy at all with the entire offensive side of the ball coaching staff. Hopefully, this year will be different.

For argument sake, cause after all this is a forum. What do you do with BC? You say he's not much of an IOL. Just a backup? Let any name above play OG while Christensen proves himself? If he fails move him to the bench or inside.

Many do, yes, but that is because the GM doesn't do their homework. Too many good players that slip to the 2nd and 3rd round that shoulda coulda been 1st rounders. Based on your logic the only players that you should be concerned about are 1st rounders. Teams build through the draft with 1st and 2nd rounders as starters, 3rd rounders potential starters and 4th and beyond are crapshoots. You don't waste (Hurney did) picks for stopgap. BC has talent and given the time he will most likely perform well. Like I said if we draft a LT than IMO that is what Fitterer and Rhule thinks best. As long as it isn't some left field player that could be a bust. I just think we could address other needs and let BC play LT. You don't and that's your opinion which I can respect, just don't agree with.

You're probably right. I think there might be a couple of teams that would bite on a 1st but not many. At this point a early 2nd would be perfect.

I'm not buying that. Payton was very good at what he did. Though I hated the SOB he was a good head coach and barely missed the playoffs with erratic QB play after Winston went down. I don't think his replacement is going to be anywhere near as good.

Fitterer has said many times that he would listen to offers. Now that the Watson deal is dead and we've signed D. Freeman and still have Hubbard. It makes me wonder if Fitterer isn't trying to get some draft capital back. Personally, I want CMC to stay but since he still have value we might try to move him. Another shorten season and his value will be minimal. Thoughts?

Yes, I think our secondary is going to be tough to beat. Well be ranting and raving about how great a pick he was by the end of the season.

Agreed MH never missed on round one. You shouldn't miss on round one. 3rd round picks are supposed to be potential starters but you have to give them time to develop. BC IMO is our best option at LT considering our other needs and I'm not only talking QB. If we choose a LT than so be it. I won't be screaming on this board, like many do, that it was a wasted pick. I just feel that we have a LT on the roster and if Rhule plays him in at LT he will perform well.

You should follow your own advice. You want a LT because you feel BC isn't good enough. That's pure emotion because we really didn't give BC a chance. We drafted a LT last year. Brady Christensen and when given the chance (last couple of games) he played well for a rookie. I believe James Campen is going to get him even better. We have other needs that could be filled outside of QB and LT that would warrant a #6 pick.

From what I saw of Love when he did play. He was way over his head. He looked lost and the Packer offense was dismal. NO NO NO NO NO No Thanks