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Believe me I was full in on Mayfield being garbage back then. Darnold I thought made too many mistakes but the arm talent was always there. He finally put it all together and of course it wasn’t on the Panthers

The way this team has handled starting QBs since Tepper took over is ass backward. The only QB completion they had was a farce between Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield. What a blessing that QB room looks like right now.

Richardson is made out of glass and not going to take care of his body well enough to last in the NFL. But maybe if he gets that in order he might be productive in the NFL. I just know if the Panthers drafted him over Young in 2023, he would already be out of the NFL due to injury.

I'd take Steichen over Canales. The Colts played well even with all the injuries Anthony Richardson dealt with and playing journeymen QBs for most of his tenure as head coach. Anyone else remember that game the Colts played against the Panthers in 2023 where Bryce threw two pick 6's?

Jonathan Taylor is better. For the main reason that he's been doing it longer and more consistently. Rico has shown he can have big games but he always looks like he's on the verge of an injury.

Haha yea who might that be??? Tyler Warren might end up being the best TE in the NFL in a couple years. JT Sanders might not be in the NFL.

We don't need to have Cam come back to save us, but his ghost is certainly making it hard to be satisfied with the garbage QB play the team has had since he left.

Dalton used to be the literal line between a servicable/average QB and a QB that was not capable of being a starter in the NFL. It was literally called the Dalton Line for many years. He's just too old to play anymore. He knows what he needs to do, he just can't physically do it anymore. It's sad to see and I wouldn't call it Ass, it's just "should retire" tier.

I don't think this is the main issue to discuss because there's a bigger problem. I said this before the Saints game that as soon as a team sells out to stop Dowdle from beating them, we're all going to be reminded of how bad Bryce Young really is. The Saints had a very clear defensive gameplan to absolutely not let Dowdle beat them. They stacked the box and stayed home in the pass rush which caused Bryce to have several balls smacked down at the line and Bryce struggled to see the field. If it weren't for the roughing the passer penalty they wouldn't have scored a single point.

Yea that's where I am. It's hard to judge him when he's playing with a QB who can't really get him the ball consistently, but considering McMillian is already producing I wouldn't say it's a great sign for Legette.

I think at times Canales catches undo flack when he has called a pretty good game and it’s clear Bryce can’t execute the offense. And other times he fails to properly scheme for the opponent, and sometimes it’s a combination of the two. The game against the Saints was the combo of the two things to the most extreme degree. Now I’m wondering how much of a distraction the Rico Dowdle / Keegan Michael Key stuff was this week.

I say no haha. What a train wreck that would be. I’d rather them go sign Will Levis or something than bring in Murray who is another physically limited QB. At least one of the 1st round “busts” from the last few years is going to end up having a decent career. Anthony Richardson, Trey Lance, who knows. The guys are out there.

That was the answer in 2020, the same as re-signing Darnold for one more year was the answer in 2023.

I said this in another thread. It’s like watching half an offense try to win games. Bryce is so limiting that they have to scheme around him to try to move the ball. Aside from Dowdle’s great run of games, they haven’t had any answers.

The formations were the same running scheme he has run with Dowdle since he became starter and it doesn’t work now that other teams have tape on it. Dowdle is going to be neutralized and they have to have someone else step up and make plays. McMillian is the only other player who can consistently make a play other than Dowdle and he’s a rookie. Bryce just isn’t it, the entire team probably knows it at this point, I think Bryce feels it, and it drags the whole team down into the abyss. They are probably not bouncing back from this loss with how difficult the schedule gets after the Falcons game. It’s brutal. Every team is going to sell out to stop the run, and the Panthers won’t have an answer for it. The season is over.

I think the Panthers have benefitted from teams not having an answer for Dowdle who had a great stretch of games and now tape is out there on the formations they use for him. Canales didn’t show a single new look or formation and the Saints were ready. They need a QB who can keep the defense honest and challenges the defense downfield which Bryce will never be able to do. It’s like watching half of an offense trying to win games.

This loss won’t go up with 2 playoff games and one loss than directly kept them out of the playoffs, but it probably completely ruined the rest of the season. The schedule is too difficult for them to bounce back from this and exposed how bad the team truly is. Their mentality is paper thin, they have no resolve to win if things don’t immediately work on offense, they can’t adjust, nothing works except Rico Dowdle and now he’s showing some fatigue and when the defense focuses on stopping him they have no answers. Season over.

Maybe joking around with Keegan Michael Key and acting like you’ve arrived when you haven’t is a bad idea for the team. Maybe just me I dunno

We know, he’s dogsh*t. He can’t make NFL throws past 10 yards consistently

He had a bad game but this loss was not on the defense. They played well enough to win.

On the flip side this win might take the Saints out of the running for the first overall pick

Let’s say we all get our wish and Bryce is not retained after the final year of his rookie contract next season. Maybe he’s even traded this offseason if the team manages to upgrade the position, but unlikely. How does the rest of his career go? Where does he go? Does he have any success? My prediction is he goes to the Rams in 2027. Matt Stafford is close to retirement and Bryce is from California and works out there in the offseason. I think we initially see Bryce have some limited success in McVay’s offense and ultimately he falls apart after defenses see the same physical limitations that made him a terrible QB on the Panthers. After that he bounces around many teams as a backup until he unceremoniously retires in his mid 30s. Unlike Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield who had physical talent but needed a better coaching staff and supporting cast, Bryce Young is just not physically capable of being an NFL QB. Much like an old veteran QB who mentally knows what to do and just can’t physically do it anymore, Bryce just flat out can’t physically do it. It’s sad to watch and I think while he gets another chance as a starter in the NFL as a starter, it won’t be pretty.

Because he realizes he’s about to be done in the NFL if he doesn’t clean up this garbage

Bryce can absolutely be blamed for a poor game plan if the reason is he is too short to see over the line and can’t throw down the field.

They have to take a chance on SOMEONE. I know Matt Corral failed but at least that was a swing. They missed on a sorely needed chance to take a swing this offseason when Bryce has been abjectly awful since he came into the NFL.