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I dunno. I like thielen as a person and a player and he's been our most reliable option for 2 years. Buuuuuuuut.... We have drafted xl, tmac and horn. We lucked into Coker. We have a couple udfa that could help us We aren't going anywhere this year. Thielen is probably gone after this year. It's a surprisingly difficult choice but I say trade him for what you can get. Let's see what the young pups can do and maybe Renfrow makes the loss easier. If Bryce is dependent on a guy that won't even be here next year then he isn't him. Thielen was at most a 3, maybe a 4 depending on Coker. Let's send him to greener pastures. We still have tmac, Coker, xl, horn, probably moore and renfrow, maybe one of udfa, and 3 young te. Let's keep the youth movement going and see who we have

I'm gunna probably get pooed for this but to play devils advocate yes the team has been terrible for years. Yes tepper has made a bunch of mistakes. But he is not the worst major sports team owner by a Longshot. For that look at the Sacramento a's or Colorado rockies owners. They are terrible. He made a major mistake with rhule. He tried to use his money and got an "all star " staff with Reich. That was a terrible mistake. He has switched to a fresh faced coach with some limited experience- he's TBD But imo tepper wants to win badly. That's why now he's blowing all his money on udfa and that has at least begun to pay dividends. He still needs to put grass over turf and build a better practice facility but he is trying to win. And from what little I can see he has cut back on his meddling ( he's no Jerry Jones or al davis) he's spending his money, and he wants to win. There are worse things an owner can be. Is he perfect? No way. But he's learning and trying and imo getting better

Fify

Tbf we just let 2 possible franchise qbs go ( darnold and baker) and passed over 1 in the draft ( stroud) bc of feelings. Feelings matter a lot for this team

If we score 27 ppg and win 3 games evero better be toast

Blasphemy! He's no mingo!

His lips have to be super chapped by now

Agreed. A good d coordinator makes his players better. Evero has not made the players hes had better. Instead we set records for suck

I have been 0% impressed with evero. His d in Denver was pre built and got better after he left. The d here has gotten worse every year and was historically bad last year. He has picked his guys who have been mostly terrible. He spent most of the offseason on the d. He has 0 excuses and should be on a seat of lava. I honestly don't expect him to make it through the year

Chuba " the 1 thing Matt rhule did right " continues to be one of the easiest panthers to root for. Hes worked hard and improved every year. He got paid and he's still working like a mad man to get better. You can't teach that. I'm glad he'll be here for years to come

Capt Morgan- thanks!

If Bryce can cook with ancient thielen there are worse things than having Renfrow as a #6 Moore really offers nothing special

Yayyy making things more expensive Hooray monopoly!

It's a sad sign when there's some panic over losing josey jewell

This thread should just be called "captain Morgan spills all the tea" I am here for it all

As others gave already stated- this is all.om Bryce. It's time to put up or shut up. There are no excuses. We have one of the better o lines in franchise history. We have a strong running game with Hubbard, dowdle and Etienne. We have young, talented but unproven te in sanders and Evans We now have one of the deepest wr rooms in franchise history with tmac, x, coker, horn, thielen, and probably renfrow The only one now that can Make or break Bryce is Bryce himself. ( btw writing this- Morgan and Canales have completely rebuilt the entire o in 2 years)

Let us have something nice before something sucky happens. Hype all the way

Good for everyone involved. Good for shaq getting another chance with a great team. Good for the Bills because they can effectively use vets Good for us because we don't have to complain if we signed him and he underperformed and now we can root for him

The best ability is availability and Richardson hasn't been available. And when he has been available he hasn't been good

I like these panthers versions of hard knocks. They do their duty of getting me pumped up for the season. Is it a fluff piece? Absolutely Will the panthers be good this year? Who knows. Are these worthwhile and entertaining watches? No doubt. Can I wait for the season to start? Nope

T Mac, x, Coker and horn might be better

And 3 of those are playoff contenders, and maybe 4....?

I'll probably catch flak for this but at least tepper is putting his money where his mouth is. He does want to win. But hasn't made many decisions conducive to winning