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Donnelly: Process used to hire Morgan was wrong
Ship replied to top dawg's topic in Carolina Panthers
Imagine thinking the most important skill to have is "standing up to the owner" of the team you work for. You can have "conviction" and make that clear, but if you're picking fights with your boss all day you'll probably be let go and that doesn't help anyone. I really don't think this aspect of the FO dynamic matters as much. It's just a way for fans to vent and feel like they're being heard by the owner through the GM. Also, no poo we want someone who believes in Bryce! He's a #1 pick and talented QB who got fuged by his coaching staff last year. Why would you want a GM or coach to come in year 2 of Bryce's career and say "the plan is to sign Teddy Bridgewater and build a team while we look for a younger QB. We can trade Bryce for peanuts." I'm glad our focus is on helping Bryce. Also, if you think the "rep" Tepper is getting for firing Reich in his first season is bad, imagine what moving on from your traded up for #1 pick QB after one bad year with a shitty coach would do to our rep. That would truly be catastrophic. We brought in some talented guys the last few years-- especially in FA. Our biggest mistake was letting Reddick and Gilmore walk and trading CMC/DJ. Would have been better to keep them and trade Burns for Bryce. But a lot of our FA signings last year were good. Thielen will be good next to Tee Higgins if we can get him. Troy Hill is good and should stay. The DTs we brought in seem to be solid next to Brown. I fully believe Chark would have been a smash here if our offense system wasn't such crap. His early injury didn't help either. Sanders has more talent than we saw. I believe our O-line can be better than what it was last year. We've seen it. I blame the scheme. My point is Fitt has missed for sure and our roster decisions have been bad. But there is still talent here that can be cultivated. I'll believe Dan can learn from those mistakes and hopefully with a good cap guy we can make smarter roster decisions on who we keep and cut/trade. Finally, we need a good coach. I like our options this year and especially think Canales will work out if he ends up being the guy. If Evero stays, we know what he can do and we should get more help on D this year too. -
I like Dan. We on this board have liked Dan as a potential GM for a long time. He has been part of winning cultures at his other stops. He's a Carolina guy, and frankly I don't think he'd be here if he didn't wanna make this a winning team again. He could go elsewhere and have success. I'd rather we keep our talent and give him a shot here instead of losing another potential Beane.
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Not all of them, apparently people who aren't employed in the NFL can be secret, but yeah they want to publicize interviews and we have. I guess I mean we don't know what the team is thinking. Lots of random picks for our next coach like Moore being betting favorite and the ESPN article giving us Callahan. No one knows anything about our search other than us loving Ben Johnson.
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Callahan would be a travesty and probably what's worse-- would mean we really are a place no one wants to be. We can do better, even if it's not Johnson.
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we're keeping leaks on lock is what we're doing
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He's on the list of great options if Ben Johnson goes to Washington. Between Macdonald, Slowik, Canales, and even Evero, I'm almost more interested in the "consolation prizes" than Johnson now.
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All teams do this. Also, after "presumably" everything else is Breer's opinion. Finally, so far we have a great list of names, so I'm not worried about perception.
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Players react to firing. They don’t seem too upset
Ship replied to raleigh-panther's topic in Carolina Panthers
there are plenty of teams with no talent who compete. players who are motivated can make things happen. it all matters. as a cam fan you've seen a guy who isn't afraid to be pissed after losses. glad you can read a tweet and say oh well he tried once. make the apathetic guys uncomfortable. -
Players react to firing. They don’t seem too upset
Ship replied to raleigh-panther's topic in Carolina Panthers
maybe eventually bryce will blow his top and demand more of his teammates when he starts to realize their apathy is going to make him into one of the biggest busts in NFL history if he doesn't turn it around. stop being nice bryce! -
RB Coach Duce Staley and QB Coach Josh McCown fired
Ship replied to jamos14's topic in Carolina Panthers
Duce has been a major disappointment this year. The hype was high coming off hard knocks and bringing some attitude to the offense and team. McCown? Doesn’t feel like we had a QB coach this year. -
There’s really nothing to do as a fan but lock into the 3 year rule, otherwise you’ll just complain and ruin your health for something you have no control over. With our first next year being gone, we’re on this ride until at least the 2025 draft anyway. For this season I’m hoping Corbett comes back and improves the o-line. Hoping someone can step up at LG by the end of the season and give Bryce a chance in the pocket. Next, I’m hoping Thomas Brown starts calling plays after the bye or something. Let him help Bryce succeed instead of misguidedly try to protect him or whatever. I’ll trust a guy from a system that took Goff to the Super Bowl over whatever BS Reich is doing right now. Next, I don’t think Sanders is healthy and I’d sit him for Chubba until his groin is right. He is killing our run game. Lastly, I’d be down to trade our 2nd for a WR. Preferably Hollywood Brown. Whatever it is we need to get someone to help Bryce. Like I said, we’re on the ride til 2025. I don’t really care about next years draft. If we do all of those things and Bryce can’t show something, then I let Dalton play and try to avoid giving away the #1 overall pick at all costs. That would tear the team apart. Then I’d make next year a QB competition and if Bryce fails I’m trading him and we take what we can get and just tear it all down. The end
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What do you feel like Bryce Young's ceiling is, as of now?
Ship replied to Sean Payton's Vicodin's topic in Carolina Panthers
We need a WR1, the FO miscalculated with the recent trades, but they are correct in realizing we need a WR1. Hurts and Tua are different QBs with a top WR, even Burrow hit a new level with Chase. Josh Allen hit new levels each year they added talent for him, culminating with Diggs. It's as simple as that. I think Bryce can get to the same level as those guys with the right WR1, but we have to go get one and at this point that probably means trading Burns. I think most of us would be happy with a high powered offense in exchange for a weaker D in the meantime. Jeudy is not the answer. Hollywood Brown is the most likely to be a "bridge" WR1 until we land a true elite guy if we're looking solely at guys available to trade for in season. I'm uncertain about Tee, because he would command top money and I don't think he tops Bryce out like AJ Brown, Tyreek Hill, or Stefon Diggs would. Reich needs to be removed from play calling. Move Burns for Brown and a 1st or try and trade for Brown now without Burns and move Burns at the deadline for (hopefully) 2 1sts again to get back into this WR draft this year. -
I mean... PJ balled out here
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I really thought Frank was going to be someone
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James Anderson who supposedly didn't like it here because Ron cursed too much
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Or that one game Brandon Hogan played against the Texans where he guided the WR out of bounds and made him ineligible to catch the ball. Genius CB!!
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If Young is the pick you protect him like the Saints did with Brees, which is with All-Pro Guards and Centers
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So then, we’ve got a WR corps to build. What do y’all got?
Ship replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
I truly think Thielen is a must as a vet presence and safety net for the rookie QB. He can still pile up TDs even if he's a bit more limited athletically now. No to OBJ who could easily turn toxic on a young QB. I think we add one of Hollins, Campbell, or Hardman. Perfect WR3s. Then it's rookie time. Ideally we could land a Zay Flowers, but maybe Hyatt or Downs is there. I also like Mims a bit later. Any of those top TEs would be good too. Let Marshall cook in a new and better offense and let Thielen hold it down opposite of him til a young guy takes the spot. -
Adam Thielen come on down!
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NFL.com ranks Carolina 2022 draft class as worst in NFC South
Ship replied to rebelrouser's topic in Carolina Panthers
I barely remember who we drafted outside of Icky. And honestly don’t care. LT has been such a need and is such an important position that his success this year has been nearly Cam’s rookie year impact to me. Icky is a piece that lets us build the rest of the offense -
These were both great interviews. I love everything I'm hearing about the hiring and collaboration process. Love that Thomas Brown was a guy Frank didn't know but brought him in and ended up hiring him. That's the way to build a great staff. I think Frank and Jim both exude the kind of thoughtful ego-less coaching we want in the building and to grow our future coaches under. I love that we have a plan for now and for the future as guys move on. This is more of a seven year plan than anything Rhule put together. Can't wait to hear from the young coordinators.
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With Brown coming in for a second interview and the Bucs hiring someone else after their meeting, I think it’s obvious he’s signing here tomorrow, which I prefer anyway
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The only way a running QB should be compared to Cam is if they can match his size. Anything less can't be the same kind of runner. The other running QBs in the league are already not lasting a whole season. He's the only one who could withstand the running for a long period of time.
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Interviewing coordinators isn’t the same as hiring them. There’s nothing wrong with a team doing legwork to help a coach with options beyond their own network. It expands options and if there’s overlap with guys the coach knows/likes that’s a great sign to be on the same page. Lots of teams are doing this now and it makes sense to try and avoid people like Phil Snow or lesser coaches who have just been friends with the head coach forever. Think of Richard rogers with Ron. Being proactive isn’t idiotic.
