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You guys not wanting to spend much to solve our QB problem are gonna be disappointed no matter how this shakes out. We’re about to spend big on Watson or moving up in the draft.

I'm not sure I agree with you that much. The reports were that our offer to the Lions was going to go through until the Rams upped their offer to beat us. So, the trade with Teddy was fine with the Lions. We weren't paying for them to take Teddy. For the teams losing their starting QB in the trade, it's helpful for them to receive a QB who 'can' start in return. Teddy's deal isn't bad for a starter. And frankly, none of the teams who are trading their franchise QBs are expecting to go to the Super Bowl next year. Just as we used Teddy as a bridge QB last season, they'll be using him for the same thing (a good guy with heart who can lead and start while still landing a top 10 pick).

I’m sure he loves wearing that ring and thinking about how daddy Foles won it for him. That would eat my soul if I thought I was a MVP caliber QB

He's a broken man at the age of 28

Remember when people here were worried that Rivera cussed too much at the players and guys didn’t like that?

1995 Hornets vs Golden State

I think either Watson is a Panther or he doesn’t get traded. We’re not gonna let him go anywhere else.

I think it's something relatable for all levels of competitive sports and probably just gets worse as you progress. I burnt out of AAU basketball in high school because at a certain point I just hated everyone. Using anger to fuel the competitiveness is just a really negative emotion to turn on that often. Similar thing with toughness. It's war and there can't be any weakness shown. Some people can handle it better than others, but not me. Life without it was also pretty empty for a little bit before I found my place. All the traveling and practices you really don't have many meaningful friendships aside from people on your team who like he says in the article may only be your friend because of proximity. Some of that mindset still comes up for me even now, though it's mostly gone.

Don't be afraid of greatness. We can piddle around with 1st round picks and constantly say "next year" or we can go get the man. If we opt for the draft we're still giving up draft picks (at least a future first) to move up and scrap with other teams for the 2nd-3rd best QB on the board. So, it's not like we're giving up nothing if we don't go the Watson route. The future will be mortgaged to some extent for a franchise QB unless you wanna try and fully tank for a whole year, which will not happen. And you get what you pay for. Might as well get this right and get a guy like Watson than try to cheap out and end up with a Wilson experiment for the next four years and limited picks.

What about our other wins this season? Why is it just Washington? If we'd lost any of those other games we'd have the same record.

I’m not gonna be mad at either one, but age is an asset, especially since we’re at the start of something. I love Watson. But, if we have 5 playoff seasons with Stafford while we draft young QBs until we hit on one, then it might be a great ramp-up process for us.

Dolphins beat reporter thinks Watson wants to go to the Dolphins. Great source

Stafford is great. He got a bad wrap for injuries early in his career, but has been very durable since. He can sling the rock. With a better run team he’s in the playoffs regularly. He can make mistakes sometimes as a gunslinger, which could make it hard for him to win it all. Also, he’s clearly on the back end of his career. I’d be happier with it if we were more loaded (like the 2015 Broncos). Right now I think we’d need more from the rest of the team to get far. I like Watson more because he can put the team on his back if need be.

All I know is there's maybe 2 guys I'd take over Watson on this list. So it's not looking good for our Wilson/Trask pick this year.

With Deshaun these first rounders won't be high picks... so who cares

So if Hurney didn't make all those picks... who should we hate?

Watson will have 2-3 maybe 4 thousand yard playmakers??? When did Cam have that? Never. An RB isn’t as valuable as a QB.

Some of you all treat our cap and draft picks like it’s your personal home finances. Trade whatever it takes to get Watson! It will be worth it. Franchise QB for another decade.

Glad we can save up our draft pick for the 3rd best QB (maybe?) in the draft.

It's Watson or bust baby

We can afford anything with the right deal!

It’s Deshaun Watson and you guys would turn him away. He is massive potential actualized, not some maybe draft pick. You act like we won’t be able to draft a soul in the entire draft for 5 years. You act like we can’t sign anyone in FA. You don’t let an elite young QB pass you by. He’s a franchise changing player.

With Chinn aiming for DROTY I’d say pretty good

even if matt isn't great, as long as he stays healthy we'll be fine. we have 3 RTs, one of them will be good enough and with the quick passes, the line will look better anyway. no way we fail unless everyone goes down (knock on wood)

You really can't go wrong rooting for any of the WRs competing for a spot this year. Everyone is all in and locked in. Everyone put in extra work this offseason and everyone is vying to take a big step. So many good stories too. It's gonna feel nearly impossible to cut down this group. This is the effect of Gettleman and the coaching staff turning their eye to the WR talent pool since Kelvin was drafted in 2014. Now we're overflowing. I kinda expect us to be in the same situation with CBs in a couple of years.